Posted by: Helen Philpot | January 5, 2009

Getting the Bad Guys

Margaret,  I got a lot of crap.  How about you?    If it’s the thought that counts then I want to know what some of my family members were thinking? Candles and exotic soaps are gifts that tell me the giver didn’t give much thought.  To all my loved ones:  Please stop buying me things for the sake of buying me things.  In the future, bake me something nice and if you don’t bake,  a hug will do just fine.  And for the record, Harold hasn’t done anything that requires a screw driver set for almost twenty years.  We have people for that now.  And speaking of people…

Welcome back everyone.  I hope you had a wonderful holiday.  We had a lovely time with family stopping by for long overdue visits.  It was even good to see the vegetarians, but I couldn’t get them to try some stuffing.  Honestly, how can someone not like bacon?  It just doesn’t make any sense.

But I was so happy to see my nephew home from Iraq.  At least that is where I think he’s been.  As a  member of  the special forces, he can’t tell me what he’s been up to.  Instead he gave me a hug and told me he’s been getting the bad guys.   I hugged him back and held my tongue because I support the troops.

Support the troops.  You know saying those words takes about as much energy as putting one of those god awful yellow ribbon stickers on your car.  It’s meaningless unless you follow it with action.  When dealing with war, it’s more than the thought that counts. 

If you want to support the troops then you do everything you can to work for peace.  You march…  you write letters to your editor…  you call your elected officials…. and you teach your children that bad guys are rarely found on the field of battle. 

When it comes to war the real bad guys are usually hundreds of miles away surrounded by men with money to gain and power to loose.  It’s a shame that the guns are almost never aimed at the bad guys.  But I understand why the army has to convince my nephew and other soliders to see it that way.   I imagine it would be hard to pull the trigger if you realize the guy you’re aiming at is probably just like you.  Yep.  You don’t win many wars that way.  Instead you have to turn “us” into “them” and “we” into “they”.   It’s hard to hate people.  It’s much easier to just hate a country or a regime.  It’s hard to kill someone’s son or father or brother, but pulling a trigger when you are aiming at a terrorists… well that’s another story entirely.  You know, I can’t help but wonder what color the ribbons are in Irag.    I mean you realize that mothers in Iraq support the troops too, don’t you?

So my New Year’s resolution was going to be to stop calling Sarah Palin a bitch and to kiss and make up with George W. Bush.  But you know what they say about New Year’s Resolutions… they’re too easily broken.  Besides Sarah ” I see terrorists” Palin is a bitch.  And the only kiss that will ever happen between me and George W. Bush will be when his lips meet my ass.

So let’s see if we can all come up with a better resolution.  One that we can  actually keep and one that is in keeping with the spirit of this blog.   For me, in 2009, I resolve to point the gun at the bad guys…starting with myself.  

I have no idea if my little rants on this internet have had any type of positive impact, but I cannot point the gun at Palin and Bush without blaming myself as well.  I sat by for eight years when I should have been getting active every day in our politcal system.  It’s the only way democracy works.  So until they put me in a rest home, I’ll be watching – and writing.   I voted for Obama, but that doesn’t mean I gave him a free pass.   And I’m pretty sure we haven’t seen the last of that moose hunter in heels.   Trust me, I’ve learned my lesson.  There will always be bad guys – at home and abroad.

So Happy New Year everyone.  Leave your New Year’s Resolution before you go and make it one you can keep.  Thanks for stopping by again.  I mean it.  Really.


Responses

  1. Another way to support the troops would be to pay more taxes so that they can be paid more and their families can get more money if they die or are maimed in action. But those yellow car- ribbons seem less expensive. Don’t they?

  2. And a Happy New Year to you ladies!

    We ALL need to be on the “look out” for the really “Bad Guys”.

  3. You sure pointed out the source of the bad guys. Kudos to you nephew for keeping up. And for you too. My resolution is to try and make my differences on a one to one level, person to person…. That’s what I can do for now.

  4. When I lived in Clarksville, TN (my husband was in the 101st at Fort Campbell), I got sick of yellow ribbon magnets. They were everywhere. They’re still everywhere, even far from post. While a nice thought, you’re right – “support” for troops doesn’t mean slapping a magnet on your bumper; it means trying to understand them, and the love they leave behind. It also means really trying to understand, not giving a head-shake and a “tsk.” Pull it in, feel it. Imagine your lover leaving for a place a thousand miles away, where – as far as you know – someone is always trying to kill him. Imagine not knowing if you’ll ever see him again.

    Support for the troops can be genuine whether you’re for or against the war, no matter what the outgoing administration has said. The troops aren’t toy soldiers, but people. People who wake up in the morning and eat a bagel or some eggs.

    The people who love them are people like you, and they love the people in Iraq the same way you love the person beside you.

    Support for the troops should in no way be connected to politics, and those who would use the troops as political propaganda do more harm to “the troops” than could anyone who, for his or her own reasons, is simply anti-military.

    Helen, I’m glad you got to see your nephew. And I hope everyone else with a loved one at war gets to see their military member again.

    Of course, not all of them will.

  5. Happy New Year to you also. I thank you for your rants on war and I totally agree with your opinions. I would like to support the troops (my nephew is in Iraq) by bringing them home. My New Years resolution is to loose 30lbs (ha) and to work for peace.

  6. btw – my post was not directed at Helen or Margaret, and “you” was meant to mean “you, understood.” My rant about politics and propaganda just flew out and was not a comment on this post, but a comment on something that continues to beg for clarification (the division between “the troops” and politics).

  7. Ah Helen-
    Thanks for having have us all in!
    And thanks for the splash of cold water- whatever we all did the last 8 years it wasn’t loud and strong enough , soon enough, to stop the stupidity and harm.
    I kept trying to write letters to our beer-drinking buddy Prez which I thought he might understand
    ” Dear Sir- I think maybe you are about to take a left turn against traffic, ya know…” but it wasn’t enough…
    I think overestimated Mr Misunderestimated -even with the low estimation I had…
    And underestimated the creeps whispering in his ear all the time… Rove et al.
    Keep sloshing us with icy water Helen- we have to stay awake- all the time!

  8. Happy New Years you two (and all of your readers)

    Thank you for making the point that supporting the troops does not mean supporting the war or the fools politicians that decided to fight the wrong war. Opposing the war and protesting the war CAN be done in a way that supports the troops.

    Welcome back.

    Mike (USN 1971 – 1980)

  9. Happy New Year guys and wonderful post. I’m tired of the easy words*support the troops*. Frankly, I’m tired of the word troops. A soldier is a soldier is a soldier. He is not a troop, although he can be a member of a troop. Depersonalize by calling soldiers troops, the bush motto, not mine.

    And yes, more should have been done before the war and after but Americans are lazy. And we get called nasty names when we don’t agree with *others* (y’all know who I mean) too.

    If there was ever a President who needed his feet held to the fire, it’s BO. I think it would be really easy for him to let the likes of pelosi, reid, mcconnell and the rest run right over him. Look for the democrats to be as bad as the republicans if Obama doesn’t roll over for them.

  10. Great post Helen and welcome back!
    My resolution is to try and spend less time looking at all the negative things in life and find the positive things first.
    Sometimes it is hard. Especially with 2 teenagers.
    Happy 2009 everyone!

  11. Thanks for the post; brings me to a larger perspective.However sometimes it feels like this: I have ants in a bed cut into the pool deck. Meanly, I put the hose on their house. Some will die but most will build a new house in the bed.Even with better methods and a goal of extermination they will still pop up.I cannot change them- they will always be ants.They like it around the pool.So do I.We have to find ways to get along.

  12. Lay off the hooch, Ann. :-)

  13. Nice to see you ladies back – I enjoy reading your posts. It must be hard trying to cook a holiday meal for the vegetarians in your family when not all of you are. Yes to supporting the soldiers – no I don’t agree with the war.
    Karen
    http://karensquilting.com/blog/

  14. Sarah P. That is ‘the brain of Ann” No hooch needed!

  15. Dear Helen,
    How nice to see you back and as feisty at taking on the “bad guys” as you were in 2008!

    *****
    Kristen: thanks for your comments.
    I am fortunate in that I do not have children or a spouse or a parent fighting the wars that the chicken[sh**]hawks start, generally to line their own coffers and those of their friends. But my spouse is a veteran as were my late father and brother. I also have a nephew and plenty of younger cousins of both sexes who have been/are on the front lines. So, of course, I “support the troops.” I also support those troops when they may need us most, which is when they return, broken in body or spirit as a result of their carrying the water for the bad guys.
    During the past eight years, I have written so many letters to my Senators and Congressperson about the wrongs perpetrated by the Bush Administration against us and the world that I practically receive form letters in response. They all literally blew me off and they are all Dems, so it isn’t a matter of party only. I am tired of Dems especially not standing for what is right. I am SO tired of having practically none of our elected officials of either party stand for what is right and just.
    Helen is correct. The election of Obama is only the first step. Each of us has to continue the pressure on ALL concerned or the warmongering will continue as usual … just as it continues as I write this.

  16. Oh, how we tried to prevent this mess! Little did we know back in 2000 when GWB was sworn in that he was a member of a pack that had whipped up a plan back when his daddy was in the WH and simply rolled it out when his son was selected President. Even the selection card was in that plan. What you had there was the Stonewall Gang. No matter how loud you screamed, how loud the bang, they just never heard you and kept right on going. Otherwise, with the citizen participation that has been growing in this country, they all would have been out on their rears in no time either through a recall or by 2004. That’s the story, morning glory!

  17. I feel so much better now that I have my M & H fix!!!

  18. Welcome back Helen. I too am glad you saw your nephew. Over the past 3 years there have been far fewer yellow ribbons on cars here in Minnesota. I take it to mean people still support the troops but don’t want their ribbon to be misinterpreted to mean ‘I support the asinine war’. Yes, let’s keep Obama and the rest of the DC crew accountable. We are better situated to make good decisions but power is a corrupting force to vigilance is required. I do hope B.O. can perform some of the miracles that are expected of him or God forbid we could be back with the Republicans in 4 years. G.H. Bush is already talking up his favorite son Jeb. God save us.

  19. My resolution is to spend more time at Starbucks.

    In my Dallas neighborhood, Starbucks is a place to hang out with people who are not like you, as well as some that are. At the Starbucks stores I visit most often, customers are young, old, conservative, liberal, black, white, Asian, Indian, Mexican, college students, high school students, retired people, and who knows what else. Actually, I guess most of them are just NEIGHBORS. And my resolution is to talk and listen to more of them, even if we don’t agree on everything.

    Unless of course George W. shows up, or the Nitwit-from-Wasilla. I’m not quite that neighborly.

  20. Another great post, Helen. I wish you two ladies and all of your readers a prosperous 2009.

    Thank you for your words on what it means to “support the troops.” We have a large contingent of soldiers currently fighting in Afghanistan. In the days before Christmas, six soldiers passed away in combat.

    It really makes you appreciate what it is to be here, safe and sound while the troops are over fighting.

  21. Well, the first thing you could do is write to Obama and tell him that we don’t want the US giving the okay to every little thing the Israelis want to do. Sharon was not a man of peace (as Bush would have it); he practically started the second intifada. The economic conditions the Israelis have left and encouraged in Gaza encourages the Gazans to support Hamas. If Israel spent half the money it spends oppressing Palestinians and stealing their land on making the Occupied Territories (and Gaza) viable economic entities with jobs, etc., they wouldn’t be dealing with a population that supports Hamas.

    I had hoped that Obama would be more even-handed in dealing with the Mideast, but with an ardent Zionist as his chief of staff, my hopes have been, quite frankly, dashed.

    I’m Jewish, and it’s time American Jews spoke up for human rights in the West Bank and Gaza, instead of saying whatever the Israeli lobby wants them to say.

  22. Finally, someone who understands that supporting the boys and girls in uniform does not mean supporting the war, and vice versa.

    I’ve been against this war since Bush was only talking about it. Everyone, even people who know better, was saying “It’ll be over in a month” and I knew in my heart it was another Vietnam. I am not happy to know I was correct. I oppose all war in general and this in particular. Beating up on a bunch of poor Iraqis over in Baghdad does not keep terrorists out of Chicago. It just makes the Iraqis hate us more

    But I do support those kids (at 66, nearly everyone is a kid to me now) fighting this war. I live in a city with several military bases close by, and I see those kids walking on our streets, they march in our Veteran’s Day parade, their wives work in the next office, they shop for groceries where I do, their kids go to school with my grandkids. They need to be home. Now.

    And the whole yellow ribbon thing seems a little sleazy to me too, along with giving Tony Orlando far more fame than he ever deserved.

  23. My resolution is to stay involved politically, even though it’s tempting to sit back and rest after 8 years of being so upset, 6 years of marching…
    I feel sorry for you Texans, being stuck with Bush forever.
    Can’t wait for this inauguration.

    Happy New Year, Margaret & Helen!

  24. Glad to see you back!!!

    I knew 8 years ago that the Shrub (as Molly Ivins called him) would be a disaster and he turned out even worse than I thought. And yes, Sarah Palin is a bitch. I have been appalled that anyone took her seriously — it just goes to show that our educational system is dead.

    My resolution is to stay active in my community and keep after my new Congress Critter. If we all raise enough hell with these fellas, we might get some action.

  25. Stop beating yourselves up for not doing enough. Hey, we got an anti war president , didn’t we? We could have had mccain , who of course wouldn’t have minded it going on for the next 100 years. Now we have to keep up the pressure on the dems & Obama to get us out of there. No more death & no more wasted money.
    Time for this country to take care of it’s own people.
    Helen, glad you’re back , I was getting worried you might have the flu or something.

  26. Those yellow ribbons on the back of cars remind me of how right after 9/11, Americans rediscovered their patriotism and rushed out to buy flags. We should always support our troops, whether we are involved in some sort of conflict abroad or not.

    Now for my resolution: To keep things friendly with my sister when I see her for this next Christmas. -at least I believe that’s one I can keep. We’ll see.

  27. Oh, Helen, you’re so right about the bad guys not being on the field of battle. What gets to me is hte fact that not only do they send off our sons, they send their own sons and grandsons, and never seem to flinch. They create a world of horror for their own progeny, not just ours. It doesn’t seem to faze them.

    There was a cartoon in a local paper a while back showing two mothers – on in the U.S. and one in Iraq, both weeping for their sons. It really disturbed me that there was actually nasty follow-up from readers about that cartoon. Why do people not understand such a basic thing?

    Keep on reminding us, please, of what we all should understand to begin with. We need you.

  28. For those too young to remember…
    those stupid yellow ribbons started from an important place- though the whole thing has degenerated into some kind of stupidity.
    We were NEVER again going to allow ourselves to take out our anger at the govt on our soldiers as so hideously happened towards the end of the Viet Nam dabacle.
    It is not Mr Obama’s feet-to-the-fire katmac- it is CONGRESS’ feet to the fire … Mr Obama does not get a free pass as Helen notes… but congress has been as stupid or stupider than Mr Bush.
    A blank check for war in Iraq?
    We have to keep an eye on every one of those folks we hired to do our business… some of em are bad guys. We got rid of one this year in AK- hoping we made the right choice and didn’t shoot ourselves in the foot like we did with this ghastly gov…

  29. apologies for trollie type spellos- in last post. am late for work

  30. “We have met the enemy and he is us”.
    - Pogo-

    You are right Helen. We need to go out to do things to change this war and this country. We can not just sit back, complain, and expect others to “fix” everything.

    I pledge to get more involved in my community by helping others. I can rake, mow, help paint, etc. Not hard tasks these, anyone can do them.

  31. Helen! Happy New Year. I personally like getting soaps and candles, but I’m a soap and candle kinda gal. I also love gift certificates, but that’s because I’m really hard to buy for and I love getting a chance to spend money (that’s a rarity for me).

    On to New Year’s Resolutions. Please don’t keep the Palin/Bush ones. Not good resolutions at all. But the getting involved one? Good one.

    I got a call on Saturday from a member of the DNC asking for a donation. I told him that I didn’t have any money in my budget to donate. It was true. But I also told him that I did more for the DNC and democracy in America than write a check–I get involved. I blog. I talk to friends who are on the border. I educate myself and try to educate others. I speak up. I write my congressmen (oh, yeah–Mitch McConnell is Mine All Mine! Hoorah. Barf.) and actually get responses back. (Mitch sent me a two-page letter on how all crimes are hate crimes, so he didn’t have to support the Matthew Shephard bill. I keep trying, though.) I sign petitions and protest when necessary.

    I also reach out to people of differing beliefs and political backgrounds–not to lecture them so much as to show them that all liberals are not baby-eating Preverts who want to steal their guns and shut down Wal-Mart forevah. Okay, it may be true about the Wal-Mart thing, but not the others.

    My personal goal for this year is to get more involved. To be even more active and informed politically. And to continue to get my health in line. :)

  32. I am SO happy yall are back to posting! I don’t have any resolutions, never do. I just try to be a good person and think of others feelings before I speak or act.

    Happy New Year ladies!

  33. Happy New Year! I’m so glad you’re back. It’s pretty bad when I start to feel bummed that someone is spending time with family instead of entertaining and challenging me with their writing!! Oh well. I’m happy now.
    In my small, very conservative, town, the tiny but dedicated group of liberals have taken a beating (figuratively) as we are accused of being anti-soldier, unpatriotic, etc, every time we marched for ending the war. So I put one of those yellow ribbons on my car – it says “Support our troops – bring them home.” I think everything we can do to get the word out is positive and no peaceful statement of the need to end that war is unacceptable.
    P.S. Thanks again for continuing the warnings about the Wasilla Whack-job.

  34. WElcome back Margaret and Helen. We were beginning to woorry about y ou
    There have been some lively discussionns araound the front porch while you were away. But we kinda wandered all over the map with out you to keep us on track!
    I won’t take up more space about my feelings about the yellow ribbons.
    And after 9/11I thought if I heard God Bless America one more time I would barf.

  35. I heard something very scray this a.m.: George HW Bush is already pushing Jed for a 2012 run. Definitely reason to stay motivated! Happy New Year, ladies. I look forward to reading you all year long.

  36. I love your rants, but I think that you, (and I also) largely preach to the choir. I want to find a way to talk quietly to those other people. I tried to keep politics out of my blog at first, so as not to offend a good “conservative” friend who used to read it. Then I posted a blog saying that I hoped that even though we didn’t agree politically we could discuss political things in a friendly way. Well, she got mad at me, said “you have no idea how condescending you sound.” I’m out of ideas. You got any on this problem?

  37. Welcome back! I have missed you. Another excellent posting. And your part about the mothers in Iraq supporting the troops too? Well said and quite poignant.

  38. Happy New Year Margaret and Helen!

    Great post as usual! You have struck a very deep emotional chord for me in this blog post today. Really a couple of issues. I will try to be coherent but my thoughts are a jumble.

    Being the Mother In Law of a soldier who has been to Iraq 3 times I find myself either angry or feeling helpless in many cases in trying to help my Daughter and Son in law cope with his time here back in the states.

    They were sent back to WA state this last year so that my SIL could further his education in medicine he is a combat medic. That is what he did for almost 4 years.

    My daughter called me yesterday as they had spent the weekend visiting other relatives and catching up with old friends in another part of our state. Unfortunately she had words with a relative over the Iraq war. She stated that it was a mistake for the US to even go into Iraq and the “war” our soldiers have been fighting is just wrong. Well the Repulican relative felt the need to let her know that by stating that opinion she was disrespecting “all of the troops and veterans” who have served this country. Her response to this person was not polite and quite to the point. How dare they question her respect for the troops when her husband is one? She bless her, took my cue and turned to this person and said if you believe in this “war” so much why in the hell are you not over there fighting in it? This is my response to anyone who voices that they seem to know more than the soldiers who have been there, while they sit at home and watch Fox News and form their own brain washed opinions. It escalated into a huge argument. I keep telling her you can’t match wits with the witless!

    Fast forward to the next day. Her husband met up with some of his buddies he had not seen since he has been back home, all vets or current soldiers. They were out to have drinks and dinner. She dropped him off and later picked him up as she new he would be drinking. This is what has developed since he has been home. These people thanks to the Bush administration and that includes John McCain, decided awhile back to down grade PTSD, you know not something to worry about. We will give you a few sessions back here when you get home and then you are fine, nothing wrong with you. (sarcasm) Now don’t ask for any additional counseling because it will end up in your permanant file and then, well we might have to ask you to leave the military. Don’t want that on your record! (anger with Sarcasm).

    Her husband upon entering the car was very upset after his get together. Talking about what he had seen in Iraq, what his friends had seen and how they were or weren’t coping with the images and memories that they are still living. How many lives he tried to save and could not both his friends and the Iraqi people caught in the crossfire and the children who deserve none of this.

    Do you see where I am going here? The best support we can give or troops and soldiers this year is to get congress off of their collective asses and change how we are treating PTSD! There are many walking wounded in our military who cannot get help. It is ridiculous! They need a safe enviroment to seek out additional help if needed period. Some cases are very mild to severe, all need treatment! I am praying PE Obama addresses this issue and soon. It needs immediate attention.

    I will be keeping track of all things for our Vets and soldiers as there is so much that needs reformed including care for their families. We say we support them but it really in many cases it is just something we parrot and never really think about.

    The last thing I want to address is the magnets and yellow ribbon issue. Yes I agree that much of that has been over used for commerical purposes and as some misguided way of showing patriotism. However in almost every town and city there is a VFW group. Even in our town of 2,000 there is one. I see them at community events and they usually have a booth. Many times they are selling magnets, pins and other items. They raise money for projects these groups do to help support our veterans and soldiers. Last year our group raised money this way to put together packages for the troops serving overseas. They are always fund raising for various military causes. Many times it is to help raise awareness through advertising etc… to get the word out about military issues that need to be addressed. So I strongly urge you if you see these people to buy something or offer a kind message just to let them know you honor their service to our country.

    Ok off of my soapbox!

    My only resolution this year is to continue my political education and to stay aware of what our elected officials are doing. I let that slide to much in the past. Not anymore.

    Regards everyone.

  39. I agree that we, the people, have to carry some of the blame for letting the “bad guys” get away with their shit…let’s go get ‘em in any way we can. We’re never too old, even if we are grandmothers and grandfathers….oh yes, and hold Obama accountable too, along with the Senate and House and the rest of the administration. Keep up with your rants…they’re the gas that gets my engine going!!! P.S. Sarah Palin IS a bitch…

  40. Well I guess I could resolve to do more spell checking and punctuation editing after rereading my post but I know in my heart that will never happen so I will live with my imperfect ways. :)

  41. Thank you for saying “bake something.” I use to think that my baked goods were not a good enough gift, even though everyone loved them. I will look at them more as a gift now.

    And I second everything you said about the war. They don’t want us there and do we really want to be there?!?

    Boring resolution – Clean out the clutter in my life. It was ‘clean the clutter from my house’ until I just realized that I have clutter elsewhere too.

  42. So glad you’re back. Your post reminded me of something that’s always bothered me….how the government uses and discards soldiers like they’re old shoes.

    Both of my brothers were Marines who fought in the first gulf war, and once they had served their time, they were forgotten. No health care, no job training (unless any companies are looking for infantrymen) or placement, no pension. I’m not saying they should be taken care of, but shouldn’t those who voluntarily put their lives on the line for all of us be entitled to some basic benefits that help them transition to civilian life?

    They’ve given so much and the government doesn’t show it’s appreciation at all. Really ticks me off.

  43. I was going to respond about getting involved in your local VFW, or VA as a volunteer, or volunteering at the VA Hospital nearest you (although those are becoming fewer thanks to Shrub).
    I also saw the HW comment about Jeb – Dear God, when will it end?
    Also to Anne with very conservative friends, try the “we can agree to disagree on the issue of war as a means to an end – and you can disagree on the actual ends, you can disagree on a whole host of issues, but you may agree on others. I’ve had to take this route with most of my family, but they are slowly coming around from neocons to middle of the road. And these were the same people in the marches in the 60’s for civil rights, and demonstrating against the Vietnam war.

  44. Happy New Year!

    I too got crap that said “Look – I sent stuff, I care!” A card would have been lots.

    Anyway – my resolution this year is to be less wasteful with water (do I really need a 25 minute shower? No. I certainly don’t need the hydro bills those produce!) and to be less judgmental of other people’s stupidity (and work on my own areas of stupidity instead).

  45. Oh, it’s so good to see you back!

    I hope you keep on keeping on, just as you have been. You have a talent for wording things just right. I’m learning from your example (it’s taken me long enough… )

    As for “Proud Community OrganizerWA” – thank you. You rock, your daughter rocks, and so does your SIL. My best to you all. Your resolution rocks, too, and I hope to do the same.

    And please, *please* don’t get off your soapbox.

    Nan

  46. Good to hear from you, Helen- and Happy New Year to all.

    Thank you, ProudCommunityOrganizerWA. for your post. I feel those directly impacted have more clout and their voices should be heard.

    I bought two ribbons from our VA post last year, but I made it clear that I would not put them on my car- I wanted to help support their projects. Both older gentlemen shook my hand- the ribbons aren’t on their cars either.

    I have made 2009 commitments (don’t like the word resolution):

    Keep pushing to get the war paid for NOW, not by my children and potential grandchildren.

    Write/agitate for health/educational benefits for vets.

    Volunteer, whether politically or to help others in my community.

    Be more smart,efficient, and green.

    Looking forward to reading more from all of you, and especially you Helen and Margaret:-)

  47. Support for our troops must also include holding the past, present and future leadership accountable for the decisions made and actions not taken. Demand that the leaders exercise due diligence and take care of the country – to include the infrastructure – roads, schools hospitals. Our troops are working to provide for the people over there – it does not make sense that our leaders at home do not make sure they have the same things over here when they return home. Demand that money be spent to help the troops and the families back here and provide quality health care and services. Insist that leaders get past politics as usual and perform the job they were elected to do and not just collect fat salaries – and ask the right questions and keep asking until they get answers – even if it means jail time for some folks and not just rubber stamp bailouts for irresponsible people. Support for troops means insisting on transparency into what is done, how, why and when and for whose benefit and insisting that it be done properly by the laws and regulations. It means insisting on fair treatment for all citizens, it means insisting that the tasks that need to be done are done – roads are built, maintained, transportation systems, water, air and food supplies are safeguarded and protected. It means not just blindly trusting but asking questions to ensure what is correct and fair is done and done well not just for the best price. It means getting involved, in big and small ways, and not waiting for others to take care of what needs to be done. Supporting our troops means treat each other with respect and dignity and caring and not letting injustices go without redress. It means working to end the poor treatment of returning soldiers, it means holding schools and teachers accountable and increasing the quality of education and health care services – it means roll up your sleeves and get involved – to make the dream these soldiers are fighting, dying and working to protect and serve becomes a reality.

  48. I, too, have reached the age where I don’t want gifts just because. I’d rather have a visit or a meal or some kind of experience and interaction with the person. I’m still trying to get rid of all the crap I have accumulated in my life to date. I am forever grateful to my friend who told me that “a gift should never be a burden.” Freed me up to re-gift or give to charity–because someone somewhere will love that thing.

    Supporting the troops and not being in favor of war seem synonymous to me. I have never understood how someone who hears me say I think stupid wars to make the fat cats rich should be stopped thinks I am saying I do not support the troops or am anti-military. I’m not. I am grateful for the service of the thousands and thousands of men and women who have served. I am just not in favor of stupid war and war for profit.

    On the other hand, I read yesterday that Papa Bush is starting to talk up Jeb for President. That’ll give you something to work with.

    By the way, I am all for positive outlook and attitude and conversation. However, “nice” doesn’t often get much done. I hope our desire to be more proactive doesn’t turn into “positive at all costs.” Not if the cost is avoiding the truth.

    Happy 2009, Margaret and Helen. Glad you are still here in the land of blogs.

    Wanda
    http://whatwouldwandado.blogspot.com

  49. Gone are the days when real leaders went into battle with their troops. It is a comment on the quality of our leaders and not our troops. I’m glad your nephew was able to visit you. Happy New Year and I agree wholeheartedly.

  50. @ Ann Gibert,

    They may largely be preaching to the choir, but that’s going to happen in any blog. People who agree are almost always the largest bloc of regular visitors.

    But there will usually be a core of people who come to be challenged and even if they don’t agree (and even if they sometimes get snarky) good thoughts can be exchanged.

    I mean, I get it hard somestimes on my blog from Christians who are very conservative (and don’t like my less conservative take on religion and life) and from atheists and agnostics who think faith is wacky. And yet among those, there are some who visit regularly and we can still have civil discussion in the comment section or via e-mail. There are no “rules” to it, though, people are either willing to talk and have an open mind, or they aren’t.

    @ Helen,

    Mmmmmm…bacon. That’s the meat product that has always lured my wife back from her periodic attempts to go full vegetarian.
    ;-)

  51. If you want to show our service men and women
    your gratitude, watch the video, and follow through.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSfFYxSdKdo
    Go to IAVA.org and find out what they are doing to help our vets.

    I’m cautiously optimistic about what and how fast President-elect Obama can achieve some of his goals. I remember what a RC priest friend said one time, “If you put someone up on a pedestal, and they fall off, who is to blame?”
    It was an entirely different situation but the words would apply to today.

  52. I love you, I love you, I love you. May we all be as wise when we get to your age.

  53. <i”"And the only kiss that will ever happen between me and George W. Bush will be when his lips meet my ass.”

    OMG, I’m so glad I swallowed my pop before I read that line.

    (applause)

    Love y’all as ever,
    Jeffrey (St. Louis)

  54. Margaret and Helen, et al – about “supporting the troops.” I think, in my little home town on the Washington coast, we have the best of the best.

    A local woman who is our most vocal voice for peace (organizes and participates in mini-rallies with placards, etc. along the one highway that passes through our remote town) is also responsible for printing up lists of all local young people who are in the military and posting them in the windows of businesses all over town, reminding people of their presence in the Middle East.

    She makes sure that there are posters in the windows of the stores welcoming each of them home on their return.

    Most people have no idea that it’s one and the same person who is organizing and implementing both efforts: the “honk for peace” sidewalk demonstrators and the acknowledgement of the service of the young people.

  55. I feel that slapping a yellow ribbon on your car (or even showing your support by wearing a US Flag lapel pin) is the least you can do. And I do mean the absolute LEAST. What a wimpy way to say you “care”. Instead of loudly proclaiming your “loyalty” with a symbolic, anemic gesture, why not get out there and actually help someone? Greet soldiers at the airport, count the homeless in your area so that tax dollars can be allocated to help them – a lot of them are former military people. There are a lot of ways to roll up your sleeves and help. We just have to look around.

  56. Happy New Year Helen and Margaret!

    This holiday I spent precious time with my children and grandchild, who live far away, and with whom I have too, too few days every year. Honestly, I don’t care what gifts they give me; the best gift for me is our being all together for a day or two.

    My resolution every year is always to lose weight. This year, it is to continue the fight to be healthy, which for me is hard.

    But I think I want to do something else positive as well. A specific personal goal. Something doable.

    I remember the runup to the war in Iraq. I kept waiting for our Dem senators to lead the way out of war madness. Fruitlessly, as it happened. I agree that we need to keep interacting with our representatives, to let them know what concerns us. For me, the end to the war cannot come too soon.

  57. Happy New Years, gals (and readers). I am so pleased to see that others agree with me. The yellow ribbons on cars and trees and stuff tend to irritate me. After all, the song about welcoming back someone who had “done wrong” and was sorry. The soldiers didn’t “do wrong.” Why are we forgiving them?

    And if I put a yellow ribbon on my car, then others will think that I support the WAR and Little Hitler, not the poor boys and girls that were suckered into believing they were protecting our country.

    But my resolution is to try for more love and understanding and peace in my heart and hope to spread it around.

    And will write MORE letters, now that Minnesota FINALLY has a Democratic Senator!!! YIPPPEEE.

  58. Glad to hear from you Helen. I hope your holidays were great! Even though I live in Austin, I spent my holidays in Houston. It was about 72 degrees most of the time. I love living in Texas!

    Speaking of…

    Mari- Don’t feel too sorry for us Texans. We know that Bush isn’t a real Texan. He was born in Connecticut, and although he went to elementary school in Texas, he attended high school in Connecticut and went to college at Yale. The Northeast can have him, we don’t want him, even if he chooses to live here (remember that 48% of Texans voted for Obama).

    As for keepable resolutions, I’ve been working on fitness since the summer, so I can keep that as a goal for 2009. But I also want to seek out something that gives me a good belly-laugh at least once a day. Nothing keeps you healthy like laughter! :) I’ll be checking into this site to help with that!

  59. Correction: Bush went to highschool in Massachusetts, not Ct. Still the Northeast though.

  60. Me again. Just had lunch and a good cup of coffee. Noticed that there are some bloggers who are really incensed about the way our vets with PTSD are being treated. I’m with you! There was up until a short while ago a V.A. Dept. office in my neighborhood treating PTSD exclusively. It was right on a bus line and there was plenty of parking for those with vehicles. Well, that was moved to quite another site many miles away and dropped into the backside of a type of strip mall. Bus service to this site is about 30% of what the service was in the previous site and the parking slots are down by 95%. Why was this service moved? The claim is that the previous site was too small for the volume of business, but the new site is the same size only strung out along the perimeter of a building. My guess is that the old site was way too close to a very well known Army base and somebody did not want the active military at the base to see the constant line-up of “injured” vets outside the front door every day. It might create a situation where somebody would question authority.

  61. My New Year’s resolution is to try to be more kind and understanding to all the idiots that cross my path everyday. So far so good, but let me tell ya, it isn’t easy. I love reading the posts Helen, keep it up:)

  62. Ira364, Thanks for reminding everyone that Bush is not a real Texan. It makes me ill every time he is referred to as being from Texas. Why he continues to play cowboy dress-up and live here mystifies me.

    Thanks, Helen for a great post.

    Happy New Year, all.

  63. Thanks for saying what you think! I just love your honesty!

  64. I’d like to start a nationwide movement with the support the troop ribbon magnets. When ever you walk past a large truck or SUV with one of those things, just move it so it covers the fuel tank door. I’ve noticed here in Oregon the larger the vehicle, the more support the troop stuff.

  65. DebA
    I wish I were as smart as you are. Thanks for the observation and the idea.

    Helen,
    Thanks for making Texas a much more livable place for this culture-shocked Pacific Northwest native. Somewhere, Molly Ivins is watching and having a great laugh.

  66. Hi Girlz and Guyz
    hope you want hate me for it, but as some know by now, I will always raise my voice when I think there is a need for, so here we go:

    DON’T SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!!

    ANY TROOPS!!!

    They only legit troops should be UN Blue Helmets, but not the bunch of ineffective clowns they have now (Sorry guys, I know you try your best, but that’s how you look to a lot of us until you are REAL combat troops, not just some politicians cheap alibi!)!

    I would like to see a world with one and one legit army ONLY. Big and strong enought top wack any 5 different people and their “combat troops” on the head on any given time needed.

    All other armed forces should be deamed outlawed and WILL be destroyed at sight.

    The ONLY other people that are allowed to own and carry arms will be local police forces, and small hand guns (aside of small special police forces only, VERY limited per country) only for them. (NO Para’s that could be used as “army” instead)

    Anyone else seen with a waepon will face extreme prison time……

    Within a few years we should be able, when consquently applied, to clean up this mess of a planet……. at least that be my sincere hope!

    But I am just a dreamer, but anyone setting up a world party to work on that has my support from day one, mentally physically and where possible monetary!

    I also once had that notion to solve poverty by getting rid of all the federal governments world wide, extend UN to a higher coverage for the world’s regions, abandon all federal govermnemnts (keep the provincial, extend police rights and take it fropm there) and with all the money WASTED by the Feds in all the countries worldwide, promote education and fight poverty…… well but as I said, I am just a dreamer…..

    Well enough provocation, let’s see what this “food for thaught” will provide as digestive products…..

    Still love you all, even if we’re NOT always on the same line!

    Werner

  67. I love your blog!

    Great idea DebA.

  68. Happy New Year, Helen & Margaret! May it bring us happiness, resolution, prosperity, and peace.

    My resolution is to keep my mouth open, my pen writing, my phone working, and my congressmen/women thoroughly sick of my ranting! After the last eight years of my silence, THERE WILL BE NO MORE! Not one minute, not one time will I let the ‘government’ get away with a single thing without me throwing in my opinion! The cork is out, the spring has sprung, the water is running, the mouth is open! HOO HA!

  69. May I dream along with you, Werner?

  70. Great post. One thing that annoyed me about the Bush administration, is they talked about duty and honour, but cut support and funding to the troops. Just because a soldier has a leg blown off and cannot fight anymore, does not mean it’s right to throw him on the garbage heap. Support the troops, not the two draft dodgers in the white house.

  71. So glad to see you back ladies. Your voices have been missed.

    YES !!! This time around we DON’T have the luxury of sitting back. President-elect Obama has landing in Washington DC running as soon as his feet hit the ground. Let’s all try and keep up with him.

  72. Carolanana and all like minded,
    welcome anytime to dream and more along with me and many others, I gave up politics when I settled down after my first Kid with 25ish, but I really think it might be time to take it up again!

    Werner

  73. BTW can someone explain me how I add a pic to my avatar? Do I have to be a blog member in the worpres?? Can I use my tumblr avatar soemhow? suggestions welcome, thks W.

  74. upps wordpress, hit the button too fast

  75. My New Years Resolutions:

    I know,I know everyone makes their New Years resolutions and then by the end of the January they forget all about them .

    Not me. But I am only going to make three this year. Mostly so I can keep track of what I have resolved to do, but also so I can actually keep the majority of them.

    Unlike most people that make resolutions that are long, or hard to accomplish or do; I decided this year to do it right. I will start with the easy stuff and after that work on the harder ones. This way I will know that by the end of the month at least one of them will be done and out of the way.

    Here they are:

    1. I resolve to stop smoking.

    2. I will lose 1 pound by the end of January and not gain it back.

    3. I will lose 19 more pounds by the end of the year. (This is the hard one, so I might not make it.)

    As I said start easy, then work on the harder ones as the year goes on. I really believe I can stop smoking since I never started. (I said I would start with an easy one.) I also believe I can get rid of that first pound in 31 days. (Not quite so easy.) And with more exercise the other 19 should be doable in 12 months time.

  76. I love everything I received for Christmas. I believe that the givers all gave loving thought to the gifts they chose for me, as I did with the gifts that I chose to give. Thank you.

    I support the troops, and am grateful for their courage and sacrifice. Thank you.

    I visited Barack Obama’s Chicago home over the weekend. I couldn’t get very near the house, but being half a block away and just seeing the red bricks and white windows peeking through the branches uplifted me. I’m very glad he’s moving to the White House. Thank you.

  77. Damn good english for a geisha girl.

  78. Bonne Année à tous!

    I resolve to make more pie this year, and eat less of it. In fact, to consume less of everything. Except this blog. I’ll keep reading this as long as y’all keep writing. Thanks for the pleasure!

  79. Welcome back, Margaret & Helen! Hope the porch wasn’t too untidy in your absence (& we replaced the light bulb too – with a troll-zapper)

    Werner – go here http://www.gravatar.com on how to attach an avatar to your name on wordpress

    I’ve never liked the yellow ribbons, ribbon magnets, yellow-gello bands, or whatever. After 9/11 the flags bloomed across the country, fluttering and flapping from cars, trucks, etc. Every front porch had one. . . and then the days, the weeks, the months rolled by and those flags used to proclaim patriotism became tattered, dirty, reduced to threadbare rags. That angered me more than anything. It simply seemed to me that the flag meant nothing – but then what do you expect when the POTUS urges this response from the American people – GO Shopping. Sheesh. So we went to the malls and sent our soldiers to Iraq. . . again and again and again. Mission accomplished? Only if you’re SP on her shopapalooza with the RNC. Yeah we showed our patriotism and support with the magnets while sending the kids off to war without body armor, with a poorly thoughtout strategy, with nothing other than good wishes and high fives and a banner reading Mission Accomplished. Gag.
    Then these kids come home to face the VA quagmire. Walter Reed was just the tip of the iceberg. My S.O. is a Vietnam vet. Last tour of duty was 1971. Served as a door gunner and was so good at that he was picked for sniper work. He has PTSD – but it wasn’t until 2008 that the VA finally decided that oh yeah he does have PTSD… oh and probably exposure to Agent Orange considering the cancer(s) he’s had to contend with over the years… we simply cannot let the kids today go through that kind of hell.

    Resolutions/Commitments/Hopes:
    1. Be involved – agitate and be proactive
    2. Work on that damn book that’s been bugging the beejeezus out of me and keeping me awake at night
    3. Wag More, Bark Less
    4. Dance with the Dogs more

  80. A Soldier’s Declaration
    “I AM making this statement as an act of willful defiance of military authority, because I believe that the war is being deliberately prolonged by those who have the power to end it.

    I am a soldier, convinced that I am acting on behalf of soldiers. I believe that this war, upon which I entered as a war of defense and liberation, has now become a war of aggression and conquest. I believe that the purposes for which I and my fellow-soldiers entered upon this war should have been so clearly stated as to have made it impossible to change them, and that, had this been done, the objects which actuated us would now be attainable by negotiation.,

    I have seen and endured the sufferings of the troops, and I can no longer be a party to prolong these sufferings for ends which I believe to be evil and unjust.

    I am not protesting against the conduct of the war, but against the political errors and insincerities for which the fighting men are being sacrificed.

    On behalf of those who are suffering now I make this protest against the deception which is being practiced on them; also I believe that I may help to destroy the callous complacence with which the majority of those at home regard the continuance of agonies which they do not share, and which they have not sufficient imagination to realize.”

    Siegfried L. Sassoon…July 1917

    Time goes by. . .but war remains the same.

  81. I hear you about actual support. My partner’s brother goes over for his third tour in a couple of days. One of my good friends, who is a die-hard Republican (and gay, so I truly don’t get it), tried to scold me for not supporting the troops.

    I told her that my support was more practical than a yellow magnet. I send books, I send food, I send sheets (did you know how badly they need sheets? It’s astonishing), but mostly I do whatever I can to get this war stopped, which seems to me the BEST way to support the troops!

    That and getting them great medical care, which they don’t seem to need, according to our government.

    On the Christmas gift front, our family has decided this year to make our gifts for each other. It doesn’t have to be store-quality; in fact it’s better if it’s flawed. But it has to be personal, come from the heart. We’d rather have one heart-felt gift than a slew of indifferent ones.

  82. “Let no one ever, from henceforth say one word in any way countenancing war.
    It is dangerous even to speak of how here and there the individual may gain some hardship of soul by it. For war is hell, and those who institute it
    are criminals. Were there even anything to say for it, it should not be said;
    for its spiritual disasters far outweigh any of its advantages.”
    Siegfried Sassoon

    So why am I quoting Sassoon? Because he was a soldier-poet. Because his war poetry still resonates today. Because he wrote of war without patriotic nonsense and without romantic zeal. Because he was a soldier poet and we still don’t listen.

  83. I missed you both! We are all glad you’re back.
    Resolutions include trying my best to be aware of political issues. My health may not allow me to physically protest (walk) and my budget does not include a lot of extra money to give organizations or political parties, but I can use my brains to try and understand and be aware of political issues. I don’t mean only national but local things like school budgets.

  84. Jack:

    What did you mean regarding the geisha?
    Most geishas (they aren’t the same as they used to be) had to be pretty clever to survive. It was a very rich and interesting “culture”.

    So, I am not sure what you mean by the “pretty good english” bit. If it was an insult, well, there are modern day geishas who are a lot smarter than you.

    And, if you are implying that Helen is in some way a “bad girl”, which is a typical dirty minded American concept of “geisha”, and typical of those who don’t want anyone to listen to anyone else except themselves, well, Jack, we aren’t going to listen to you either.

    I would say that if you were lucky enough to ever meet a geisha, she wouldn’t touch you with a ten foot pole.

  85. My resolution was to make no resolutions, and so far I’ve been able to stick to it.

    I did tell myself to take just one day at a time. Well, they come that way anyway, but sometimes I take more than one day at a time in my mind. Not so good.

    Great post as usual!! Keep ‘em coming!

    Jules who does not have a yellow magnet ribbon on her bumper

  86. And, your a coward for putting out those words and then running away.

    If you don’t agree, then at least have the balls to say why.

  87. I came out of the Democratic “closet” as it were when Obama ran. I live in a decidedly Republican county and I was afraid of being burned at the stake.

    Now that I am “out”I have vowed to stay out. I am stating my opinions politely but frankly. I blog and I also write my congressmen even if that is sending hem a copy of my blog.

    I will not again go silently into that Republican night of war and economic collapse.

  88. Nice to see you back Helen. It seems like forever since your last post. Glad to hear everything went well for the holidays.

    Here’s a video for you and your nephew.

    The Asylum Street Spankers

    PEACE ~ Δ

  89. I’m glad to see you back too! I was afraid you had decided it wasn’t worth it, and I’d sure miss you if you had.

  90. Georgie HW Bush…aka daddy shrub… said on Fox News this past weekend that he is grooming his son Jeb for the White House. Doesn’t a Jeb Bush/Sarah Palin ticket just scare the pants off of ya? I know it does me!

    Oh, the humanity!

  91. glad you are back helen.

    sharing a lead for the readers and critical thinkers.

    “Birthed from Scorched Hearts: Women Respond to War; Book Review
    by Tom Kerr
    In a new book anthology, Birthed from Scorched Hearts: Women Respond to War (Fulcrum Books 2008), the phenomenon of war is insightfully explored by more than 60 award-winning women writers. War, as experienced, observed and defined by the writers, is skillfully interrogated with wisdom and unapologetic honesty.

    http://www.ontheissuesmagazine.com/cafe2/article/28

  92. Quoting Greytdog Δ @ 4:13 PM

    “I AM making this statement as an act of willful defiance of military authority, because I believe that the war is being deliberately prolonged by those who have the power to end it.

    I am a soldier, convinced that I am acting on behalf of soldiers. I believe that this war, upon which I entered as a war of defense and liberation, has now become a war of aggression and conquest.”

    Here’s a movie for ya:

    Sir! No Sir! – The Gi Revolt

    Only when those actually fighting the war believe that it is time to stop…then it will end. They’ve done it before and can do it again.

    PEACE ~ Δ

  93. Pleased you had a good Christmas and New Year… even more pleased to see you back writing. Best wishes to You and Yours!

  94. Soldier, We Love You

    As true now as back then.

    Same sh*t different pile.

    Δ

  95. Happy New Year to you ladies as well! I made a resoulution NOT to make a resolution. Not because I don’t or can’t keep one….just because I tend to forget whatever it was I promised right after midnight……..

  96. Ah, Helen, you make me so happy. Thanks.

  97. as Greytdog so rightly pointed out, war never changes.. I sat off the coast of Vietnam while Kissinger and Nixon and the North Vietnamese argued over whether to discuss the war over a round table or a square one…while soldiers died.
    This war will go on as long as it is politically and econmically profitable for America’s corporations. who are teh real ones in control here. The political process serves those that support it and we unfortunately by trading shopping and consumerism for democracy have become our own worst enemies…bad guys be dammed!
    Happy New Years girls, welcome back..

    grantman

  98. Hi Helen,

    Happy New Year! I am glad to see you back and feisty as ever. I agree with you, nobody gets a free pass and should be held accountable. We all got too complacent and look what the heck happened and almost happened again save for some vigilant folks like you.

    Let’s stay on the ball, Freedom is not Free.

    Shirley

  99. Whirled Peas:

    You never fail to amaze me with your information.
    Its funny. I remember that so clearly, all the info about the guys in the Presidio. It breaks my heart that after all this time and all these wars, we have not learned anything.

    My cousin lives in Alaska. He was an airborne ranger during Veit Nam. He tried to kill himself while home on leave. He now works with a group that visits and tries to help rebuild the country he helped destroy.

    We shall overcome. We shall overcome. We shall overcome some day.
    And deep in my heart, I do believe….
    We shall overcome one day.

  100. Happy New Year and welcome back Helen and pal Margaret! Your instantly broken resolutions cracked me up.

    About those magnetic yellow ribbons – I used to buy them everytime I’d go to our neighborhood hardware store, and think I was doing something good, after all it was proclaimed that $1 of every sale goes directly to help the families of our combat troups. Since these ribbons cost $5, I asked the owner, who gets the other $4? He said it wasn’t him, all proceeds went back to the person/organization that made them. That made me stop buying those faux-support-get-some-scammer-rich ribbons. It was a leech who originated it, laughing all the way to the bank.

    GreytdogΔ – your quote from Sassoon the soldier back in 1917 reminded me of a recent soldier born and raised here in Hawaii – Ehren Watada. He was court martialed over a year ago for refusing to lead his troops to Iraq, saying it was an illegal war based on lies. He caused quite a stir with angry people on both sides either praising or vilifying him. His case ended with a weird mistrial, and then I believe it was dismissed because of some other weird legal stuff. He was wrong in a sense because he did not follow orders, but he was also right because he felt it wrong enough to disobey orders that were based on bullshit that Bush and Co. made up.

    President soon Obama has such a mess to clean up, but I am still in the fairytale stage of hope. For veterans, I believe Shintani will do a great job as the new director of Veteran Affairs. He isn’t one of the ivy league boys, rather he’s a humane ex-commander that actually cares.

    The Bushes will be around for a long time – crap takes longer to dissolve when it wraps itself in a false cloak of Christian goodness.

    My resolution is to be a good American, and when our new President asks me to pitch in, I’ll pitch.

  101. So good to see another post from you, Helen. My New Year’s resolution is to take half as good of care of myself this year as I have my special needs son since he was born 3 years ago. It occurred to me that if something happens to me, he’ll be totally screwed. So I made 2 different doc appts. today. Yay Me! (That’s pathetic, I know I should be getting my hair done or going to the book store, but it’s a start.)

  102. troutay,

    I’ve been out of my personal ‘coma’ (it costs nothing to pay attention) for some years now and have collected many links along the way. I glad you enjoy the information I supply. It’s what I do!

    And just remember the real reason why we’re in this mess…

    It’s all going according to plan.

    When I say ‘PEACE’…I mean it.

    ~ Δ ~

  103. I wish you a happy and healthy new year. As to useless Christmas gifts, may I suggest that next Thanksgiving you send all your friends/relatives whom you expect to be “gifting” you, a list of at least 3 organizations to which they can make donations in your name. My environmentalist son donated in my name to Carbonfund.org- reducing my climate impact! I like to make gift donations to Heifer, International, which helps end world hunger & poverty through self-reliance/sustainability. My family loves the idea that some impoverished family/village in 53 countries &/or 28 US states get anything from a flock of geese to a goat to a water buffalo! Pick your favorite charities & give & receive gifts that make this world a better place.

  104. my new years resolution is one thing…one really big thing…

    do the right thing.

    So many times it is easy to turn away from doing the right thing. This year I vow to keep it front and center and hopefully have more days than not that I feel pretty damn good about who I am and what I do.

    glad you are back!

  105. So Glad for a new post! I was going into withdrawal!

    I’ll read the comments and leave a few of my own throughout the week.

    Happy New Year, Parlor Wedgies!

  106. Missed you ladies — agree 100% regarding the war and the phony-ness of those yellow ribbon magnets.

    Resolved — keep those “action alerts” coming in and keep acting on them / writing to state and federal officials, and finally also now to a president who I think will actually give a damn about those of us without strong ties to the Oil Industry…

  107. Happy New Year Helen, Margaret and All:

    I have one resolution in the spirit of Gandhi:

    I resolve to BE the CHANGE I wish to see in THE WORLD.

    Let peace begin with me– each and every day.

    Δ skyewriter

  108. I checked in every day hoping to see another of what you call “rants”. I call it darn good writing and since we agree..darn good thinking too. I don’t know you but I love you. Can I adopt you as my aunt. I promise no candles, gift cards or soap. Everything I used to bake or cook is bad for you know so how’s about I brew up some de-caf, catch a show, or just chat instead. I look forward to your take on the Obama four years. hugs and best wishes for 2009.

  109. Glad to see you posting again Helen. I missed your wit and sense.

    So, I am going to pile on here and make my New Years Pledge: In 2009, I will pay attention to what is going on in the world, I will pay attention to what our elected officials are doing, I will comment, foment, write, call and yes even protest If needed. I will do this on top of work, family, other obligations, as all of us must.

    PE-Obama is not going to get this done alone; we elected him, we need to keep him honest, and we need to support him. I am signing up for it.

  110. Greytdog,

    The ‘A Soldier’s Declaration’ by Siegfried L. Sasson is so profound. It broke my heart and gave me a chill at the same time. How many, many wars since he wrote that?

    Thank you for sharing it. I’m sure it will give all of us here thoughts to ponder.

    Aloha!

    Jean

  111. Welcome back, Helen! We missed you!!!

    I have a kind of sweet little Holiday story. One third of our family was here from Pennsylvania. We did all the usual stuff, but the highlight for me was with our 10 year-old granddaughter. She and I really bonded, big time!

    She and her 14 year-old-brother both go to good public schools, are both A students and are very much into sports. They play in baseball, softball, basketball and soccer tournaments that turn out to be pretty expensive to participate. $$$$$. They are both healthy although the boy has had full mouth braces for some time. $$$$$.

    Just for fun, I gave my granddaughter a beginner’s standard 50-minute piano lesson. She had never been exposed to playing music that much before. Well! She went for it like a duck to water!!!!!! She stayed at the piano for THREE hours after the lesson. What an incredible span of concentration!!! The TV was going full blast and I was working in the kitchen but ran help her when she needed it. It got pretty hectic for me at times, but she was oblivious to everything but the piano.

    We had a few more lessons and every chance she got she went straight to the piano. We even had a little performance and I taught her the proper bow. We did a duet, “Comin’ Round the Mountain.” They had to pry her away from the piano when it was time to go to the airport for home. The rest of the family was in the car!

    Our son is going to get her a little Casio keyboard and I am going to continue to give her weekly lessons over the phone since we have unlimited long distance. Our grandkids have a bright future.

    What’s the moral of this story? These are only TWO examples of the educational opportunities that EVERY child SHOULD be having, but as we all know, is NOT! When it comes to budget cuts, what is the first to go? Education. Further, in the past few years, courses beyond the basics for minimal skills to get a job are practically non-existent. There is more to life than just making a buck! Our kids need exposure to art, music, literature, all the humanities to become well rounded individuals. Citizens.

    We can’t pay out billions for war but shortchange our kids’ education in the process. And speaking of war, Helen. Two of our grandsons are 14. In four years they will be eligible for military service. Fortunately, we no longer have the draft that was compulsory in ‘our day’. But who knows…….

    Our generation and the next have an obligation to these wonderful kids to make their hopes and dreams come true. Our son and his wife are doing their best and a hell of a good job at that! We have to do our part too.

    Aloha!

    Jean

  112. For 8 years we have lived in terror. For 8 years we have been held hostage to the goblins hiding in the closet and under the bed. For 8 years we have allowed our politicians to play with our soldier-children and fearfully cheered while our leaders proclaimed:

    When I was sick and lay a-bed,
    I had two pillows at my head,
    And all my toys beside me lay,
    To keep me happy all the day.

    And sometimes for an hour or so
    I watched my leaden soldiers go,
    With different uniforms and drills,
    Among the bed-clothes, through the hills;

    And sometimes sent my ships in fleets
    All up and down among the sheets;
    Or brought my trees and houses out,
    And planted cities all about.

    I was the giant great and still
    That sits upon the pillow-hill,
    And sees before him, dale and plain,
    The pleasant land of counterpane.
    (Robert Lewis Stevenson)

    Bush & Co. no longer own the land of counterpane. It’s time to air out that sick room.

  113. Jean, thank you for sharing the story of your granddaughter. But beware beware! You wrote: “Our kids need exposure to art, music, literature, all the humanities to become well rounded individuals. Citizens.” You will be creating radical thinkers and doers! The Humanities teach a person to see the big picture, the pieces/parts of that big picture and how it all connects . . . and how one action or even inaction has a ripple affect across those connections.

  114. Our new year’s resolution (as a couple, not the royal “our”) is to go on one date a month to a new-to-us restaurant. Let’s hope we can keep that one.
    Keep on writing. My best friend and I just turned 40 and we want to be you two in 30 years!

  115. Can you believe that Bush senior would like to see his other pin-head son, Jeb, as a Senator or President? This guy just doesn’t get it!

    Happy New Year to one and all!

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  117. Welcome back dear Ladies!! We have missed you deadfully/

    I have in dispair the past 8 years thinking th ere was no use in any protests. In fact, a friend in another, are pretty sure our phone conversations are listened in on.
    But I have sighned some of the petitions lately and have actually had emails for one of our senators!!
    Believe me, I will be sending lots more the next 4 years. And with addendum. “If I find that y ou are voting in favor of any wars and other things, I will strike y ou off my list and vote for someone else.”
    I just wonder who is after Bill Richardson?

  118. Happy New Year everybody!
    My resolution………….
    To teach my students (5th graders) the importance of communicating with their representatives. I resolve to come up with a strategy for giving them a good reason to write their senator or representative. And we will mail the letters.

  119. Grandma Katie – even if anyone is listening in, so what? The folks listening in on the other end are usually small-minded, trapped-in-a-box type of thinkers whose only claim to fame is the ability to frighten other people. And if we’re not frightened by their threats but speak out against their actions. . . they lose that power to which they so desperately cling.

  120. i know this is a controversial statement, but dammit, i’m old enough to decide finally to say my piece. It is obvious to everyone in the world who has a brain that the war in Iraq is founded in lies, has been from its onset a package of international war crimes and my resolution this year is to stop biting my tongue every time someone says ’support the troops’ … and say what i feel must be said, in truth, in honesty and with logical thought: I cannot and will not support people who are actively involved in international war crimes (if the war itself is an international war crime, then what culpability, accountability do its participants hold for their participation?), and everyone serving in Iraq voluntarily is doing just that, whether we want to admit it or not, whether they are our relatives or friends or not.

    I do support the troops who have put their moral and ethical values into action and their futures and individual freedom on the line and refused to fight in Iraq. Those troops are not getting the support they should be receiving, and that is something i resolve to make amends with this year.

  121. Lordy. Lordy. You are full of shit lady. My brother is over there fighting now. If you want to support him then work for VICTORY. Peace is just another way of saying defeat. You peace lovers make me sick. We need to WIN that war and kill those devils so they never EVER think of attacking us again. This is PURE BULLSHIT on this site. It should be called Margaret and Helen Hate America!!!!

  122. to Alaska PI:

    if you investigate the actual history of how vets were treated during the Vietnam War, you will be surprised to learn that NO ONE was spit upon .. that occurred in a movie in 1975 (remember the right wing confuses reality with TV and movies constantly, as they did here). Video of napalm-burning children was daily fare and shocked the senses of young people who opposed the war — imagine being face to face with a vet who not only was not shocked by the brutality of it, but defended it and wanted it escalated.

    It was not like now when war is so sanitized that guys are fighting from computer screens .. and those who enlist imagine war to be one big video game.

    I remember meeting a vet in college during the Vietnam war and frankly he scared me shiteless. His solution to ‘win’ the war? Nuclear bombs to wipe out all of Vietnam, north and south. These guys came home and were so full of anger and frustration that expressed itself in aggression both physical and verbal .. none of that is remembered, and if it is remembered, it is never spoken about outloud.

    Soldiers are not gods, they are not mythmakers, they are not from the movies. And some of them, most especially recently, scare the living daylights out of civilians, both in Iraq and here at home.

    The Vietnam War wounded everyone. As all wars inevitably do.

    Currently, Israel is dropping cluster bombs and white phosphorus (the Pentagon’s cute way of using napalm which was outlawed long ago — just adjust the chemical composition a tad and call it something else) on Gaza. 1.5 million people in one of the most densely populated areas on earth. And where is the US on this? silent approval.

    despicable. there can be no other description for our failure to condemn this action.

  123. resolution: not to fall asleep again and trust that things will work themselves out.

  124. Longtime reader, first time commenter (and a late one, at that – ha!).

    But here’s the thing: I detest the war. I don’t support it, I think it’s wrong and I think we were all fed a line of bullshit about why we were going into it.

    But.

    Those men and women/boys and girls out there? The ones getting shot at every day? They joined the military (many of them) because they wanted to “protect and serve” on a NATIONAL level. They knew going in that they would have to go where they were told. They knew they might die. They BELIEVED that they were/are doing the best thing for their nation.

    And you know what? They’re right. I didn’t raise my hand to volunteer to go to war, whether or not I believed in it. I didn’t raise my hand to get up every morning and put myself in harm’s way. I didn’t raise my hand to sleep in the desert, breathe sand and kill people I had never met and had no personal grudge against. I didn’t raise my hand. And I still wouldn’t raise my hand to go to war for a cause that *I* don’t believe in.

    But God bless those who did. God bless the people who are waking up in Iraq today, because whether or not I agree with their politics, they have volunteered to put themselves in harm’s way for what they perceive is my sake. Whether they are right or wrong is irrelevant. I am grateful. I hope they all come home safe and sound, and words cannot express how grateful I am for their willingness to do what I freely admit I would NOT do.

    God bless them all.

  125. What a wonderful column, Helen!

    Most of these posts are so insightful, too, and it’s just such a treat to see how many people there are out here who realize that patriotism is not blindly believing (falling for) and following everything your government tells you. It’s speaking out when you see things going wrong, when you hear lies and know them to be lies. It’s always being observant, and not just sitting back letting somebody else carry the load. It’s not giving up, even when all you get back from your elected representatives are form letters. It’s not letting people like Capel shut you up.

    I feel great pity for Capel. Don’t know how he found his way to this site, but to shout at Helen and say she and Margaret hate America is a sad commentary on the insecurities he has. Allowing for the fact that he must have great fear for his brother’s safety, it was still a really nasty post.

    Capel — we appreciate your brother’s service. He is doing what he feels is right, but . . . so are Margaret and Helen, and all the other posters on this site who understand things perhaps more clearly than you do.

    What would “victory” look like to you?

    Who are the “devils” we need to kill so that “they” will never ever think of attacking us again?

    And saddest of all — why do lovers of peace make you sick? Peace sickens you? Love sickens you?

    I repeat, I feel great pity for you. You are indeed a sad example of misplaced nationalism, and you totally missed the point of Helen’s message. Totally!

    Greytdog — beautiful message, beautiful poem. Too bad Capel couldn’t get the point, just as he missed Helen’s beautifully phrased point — that whoever Capel’s brother takes aim at, it’s most likely somebody just like him (not a devil, just a young soldier doing his duty — possibly one who believes Capel’s brother is “the devil” who has invaded his country and destroyed everything in sight!). It most assuredly is not someone who “attacked” us.

    Anyway, you folks who’ve been regulars with Margaret and Helen, and who work hard to keep the porch clean and the environs warm and inviting, will probably know best how to clear out the slime he directed at our dear ladies, far better than I can!

    OK — New Year’s commitments:

    1. To continue to write my congressman and Senators about everything that troubles me:

    * how this country mis-treats our returning injured (TBI, PTSD) war vets (my husband is retired Navy who enlisted during the Vietnam War and retired 20-plus years later);

    * that we need to hold Bush/Cheney accountable for war crimes and treason against the US constitution;

    * that we need to get back to science-based approaches to everything from stem-cell research to global climate change to sex education for our children;

    * that we need to put into place heads of agencies who didn’t previously work as lobbyists for the industries they’re now supposed to oversee;

    * that we need to quit thinking of America as somehow “better” than any other country or people on this earth and start working within the family of nations. (Doesn’t anybody in power realize that we all drink water from the same original Source, that we all breathe air from the same original Source, that we grow our foods–different as those foods may be due to climate or topography–in soil from the same original Source, that we process that food and water internally in bodies that operate exactly like every other body, different as the surface appearance may be in terms of eye shape, hair color, skin tone; that, in short, we live on a very small ball in a vast universe with others who are more similar to us than different, and if we foul this nest while trying to kill all “the devils” we have no alternative nest?!?!)

    2. I will attend City Council meetings in my own town and speak up here — change begins at home, at the grassroots level. (Thanks, Barack!)

    3. I will try to understand where an angry, hate-filled person like Capel is coming from, but whether I can understand him or them, or not, I will not allow another’s hatred and anger to pollute my thought processes or to derail what I know to be the right course of action for me. I will never again allow any person or group to usurp the flag, or the word “patriotism,” and claim it as his or their own!

    4. I won’t miss a Margaret and Helen column.

    PLEASE PLEASE dear ladies (and all you regular posters) — keep it up! This is the highlight of every week. You always speak so plainly and yet so movingly on whatever subject you decide, and you make us all think.

    Thank you to all you wonderful regular posters. It seems like I know you all. It’s like being in an on-line classroom where thoughts and ideas can be distilled, reviewed, clarified.

    Happy New Year, one and all!

  126. First, I gave my mother soup in easy open cans. With her physical limitations, it means an easy meal, since she is still living on her ow. She loved it.
    Second, you are right on in identifying the bad guys. My nephew served a tern in Iraq and is now in training for special forces. He wants to kill bad guys. But I don’t think he’s getting the right training for the real bad guys.
    As I stated on my blog, my resolution, my hope – that we can learn from our mistakes.
    Thank you for your passion.

  127. Bravo Jan, and well said!

    I also feel very glad to “know” many of you through your postings. It is like being in a coffee shop with good friends all enjoying our favorite songs. The trolls would say we’re drinking the same kool-aid – maybe so, but it really is great kool-aid, yup!

    Mahalo to all of you – Jean, troutay, grandma, Alaska PI, Greytdog, to name a few. This is one of my favorite places to check out when I have a moment of time to indulge. Thanks to Greytdog responding to Werner’s question, I now know how to post a picture.

    The biggest mahalo nui loa goes to Margaret and Helen – thanks for the laughter and wisdom and those insights that pop into my mind and make me chuckle during the day.

    Thank God Obama won, because now we can chuckle, have fun and dance to the oldies (even the youngsters like some of the oldies, right?)

  128. You are soooooo funny..and REALLY I do not understand how anyone cannot like bacon either!! Resolution: “to complete at least one project that I start”!! that is a good one and one I can keep…love from the lake

  129. Capel

    At what cost? And Iraq did not hit the U.S.
    Bin Laden did.

    Sad, so sad.

  130. Yes, the bad guys are the ones sitting on velvet sofas in silk lined rooms, thousands of miles from the fighting.

    Does any of the money from the magnetic ribbons actually go toward benefiting the troops? Or does it just go to those who make and sell the ribbons?

    Supporting the soldiers means supporting peacemaking efforts — and working to make their lives and the lives of their families easier.

    How about getting on a website to find a soldier who doesn’t have a family to write to or to support him or her? I did a Google search and came up with a bunch.

    Peace and love.

  131. Sophie wrote:”Video of napalm-burning children was daily fare and shocked the senses of young people who opposed the war —
    It was not like now when war is so sanitized that guys are fighting from computer screens .. and those who enlist imagine war to be one big video game.”
    —————————————————-

    I’m sure that war technology has advanced enough that yes, many of our soldiers do fight the war from computer screens. In fact, many of the missile carrying drones in Iraq are “piloted” by soldiers here in the US. And the dexterity and mental acuity required by modern video games translates well into military video games. But the real sanitation of war occurred when the 4th Estate, the Press Corps, gave up their objectivity and independence and became “embedded” in the military. That is how this war has been controlled for “consumption”. Gazans know the power of pictures – pictures of bleeding children being carried into hospitals are more powerful than pictures of a child whose life is lived under the eerie whistling threats of daily rocket attacks. As long as the Pentagon controls press coverage (including photos) in Iraq then the war will continue. Yes the pictures of children napalmed did help to turn the American sentiment during Vietnam. . . but so did the pictures of the caskets coming home, plane after plane after plane after plane.

  132. Shaaaks!

  133. sophie said-

    “if you investigate the actual history of how vets were treated during the Vietnam War, you will be surprised to learn that NO ONE was spit upon .. that occurred in a movie in 1975 (remember the right wing confuses reality with TV and movies constantly, as they did here).”
    Sorry, Sophie- No surprise here…
    Maybe no one YOU know was spit on. I have cousins and friends who were spit on and harassed – some in front of me.
    Worked for years with one of the brightest , most good-natured fellows Ive ever met. His journey to Alaska and eventual personal healing was ALL about getting away from folks “back home” who took all their frustration out on returning soldiers – he was one of the DRAFTEES who found his childhood playmates felt he should have taken on the whole govt himself and stopped the whole mess himself.

    Yes- some of the vets were hawks- bigtime blowem-up hawks- just like some of your current neighbors in America are.
    Some were doves – many were made doves on the battlefield. Gretydog found the WWI voice that speaks for them-even so many years later.
    Most that I knew/know just wanted to go/come home.
    Like most groups of humans – those who returned from Viet Nam were a pretty broad spectrum of folks. No one size fits all.
    The point here is that the BAD GUYS were the chess players in DC…

    “Video of napalm-burning children was daily fare and shocked the senses of young people …”
    This news coverage was a milestone for ALL. It humanized the “enemy”- made what our returning soldiers were saying real. As Greytdog points out we also saw the endless line of caskets coming home.
    I went to tooooo many funerals for a long time.
    There were plenty of young folks in this country who were so shocked they took it out on returning soldiers Sophie… maybe not in your neighborhood.
    Maybe not in front of a camera…
    ———————–
    Greytdog- would you go get your Pfeffer cite from END-OF-DAYS…
    the stances described there are vivid and well fleshed out… and a sensible place to get hold of the complex stuff roiling up here…

    Troutay- you go girl!!!! I’m over my cold enough I can send hugs…
    and well enough to go outside and shovel some more snow

    ————————————
    Capel’s rant above is typical of folks who think :
    1- they will keep a beloved family member safe by surrounding thoughts of them with righteousness
    2-have demonized the “enemy” such that they themselves don’t have to think about real blood from real people
    3-get mad at folks at home who break-the-chain – like those dumb chain letters where the world is gonna end if everyone doesn’t keep it going.

    I am hoping Capel’s brother comes home safe and SOUND and that Capel learns his safety does NOT lie in perfecting hatred for people who didn’t threaten us or hating Americans who don’t agree.

  134. support the troops not the war…. its a mantra used since 2003 and will be continued until we are out!

    In the spirit of things…. My new years resolution is to every day realize its a new day. That I cannot change the past, but I can do things to build on the future…. such as being more involved politically and simply opening my eyes to see the world around me.

    Like you Helen- I would be lying to myself if I were to resolve to quit calling Palin a stupid ignorant bitch…. I also think Bush will have to firmly and surgically implant his lips to everyone’s asses in order to even take the first step to making up for what his ignorance did to this country….

    I think Palin should make the New Years resolution to dissapear from our eyes forever!!!! She can live a peaceful existence in Alaska… over there where I don’t have to see her at all and she can spare the American public the embarrassment of her being a “public figure”!!!

    Kudos to you for all you write!!

  135. “She can live a peaceful existence in Alaska… over there where I don’t have to see her at all and she can spare the American public the embarrassment of her being a “public figure”!!!”
    —————————————-
    We have a job as a Wal-Mart greeter all picked out for the gov… just have to get her to turn in the ap.
    So far- we can’t get her attention… she’s talking to the witch in the mirror, ya know.

  136. Sophie

    “I cannot and will not support people who are actively involved in international war crimes (if the war itself is an international war crime, then what culpability, accountability do its participants hold for their participation?), and everyone serving in Iraq voluntarily is doing just that, whether we want to admit it or not, whether they are our relatives or friends or not.”

    Oh Sophie if it were so simple. Unfortunately it is not. When you join the military you have a chain of command. Period. You follow orders. You have to rely that your chain of command is involving you for the right reasons. These young men and women were lied to like the rest of us. Should we put every soldier in jail? Is that were you are going. How about all of the people who have raped this country economically and work for the big bailout companies. From support staff to the CEO’s? They are killing this country as sure as the War is in my opinion, or do we go after the real perpetraters of this war? You know the ones at the top that fed America with false information?

    I wish you could meet my son in law. He tried to save as many lives he could while in Iraq. Americans and anyone else caught in the line of fire. He like many of his fellow soldiers are paying the price and still walk a fine road of trying to reconcile what they have seen and how they had to do their jobs. He is a fine person and I would never in a million years consider him a criminal.

    Here is a story for you Sophie when My SIL came home from his first tour in Iraq he and several of his friends came off of the plane here in the US and as they walked through the terminal a man stopped and looked all of them in the eye and and said “So the baby killers are home”. Now that is what I call disgraceful. My SIL was shocked. He is young enough not to know what the soldiers came home to after Vietnam. My husband and I had to inform and educate him. Yes it is still happening even today.

    While I feel everyone has a right to their opinions and definately the right to protest their government if they feel passionately that we are going in the wrong direction. Misplaced anger used this way is as destructive as the terrorists who wish to destroy us.

    “Soldiers are not gods, they are not mythmakers, they are not from the movies. And some of them, most especially recently, scare the living daylights out of civilians, both in Iraq and here at home.”

    Nope Soldiers are not gods or mythmakers. You are right and that is why I did not vote for John McCain. It does seem to me that you are painting all soldiers with the same brush. My take is that your feeling is all soldiers are bad. Do you feel like this about everyone in uniform? Like the police? To me this is no different than any form of biggotry. There are always bad people or apples if you will in any group but to blame all of them for these people’s actions is biased and discriminatory.

    Marste Thank you for your wonderful post you said exactly how I feel.

    Jan Excellent questions for Capel. I will add my favorite When are you signing up to fight and gain “Victory” yourself Capel?

    Troutay you are the best! Yay!

    Nan as you can see I am back on my soapbox this morning. Stepping down again.

  137. Good Morning Alaska Pi! Walmart does not want her either something about being ethically challenged!

  138. Proud-
    Hug your SIL for me…

    And- dang! Was so hoping Wal-Mart would take SP…Maybe we should fill out her ap…Fudge a bit maybe.
    Though I ’spose the first time she greeted the folks with “progress us all forward..” into-the -store the cover would be blown tough…

  139. Pi “Progress us all forward…..You betcha!”

  140. Capel 1/5 @ 11:22 PM:

    Where should I begin? How about this:

    I found a snapshot of your brother over there ‘protecting US’.
    http://thumbsnap.com/vf/1Xxp1w2m.jpg
    He’s the one on the ‘right’.

    He can come home now. Mission Accomplished.

    I pity you. I mean it. Really.

    Δ

  141. Capel 1/5 @ 11:22 PM:

    Thread-wise, Capel, if you really want to support WAR, better get yourself one of these while supplies last:
    http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2006/10/endless-war.html

    Who am I kidding? There’s no shortage of those ribbons as long as there are people who think like you.

    Δ

  142. resolution… to be a little nicer.

    Anyway… excellent blog today, I agree with a lot of the sentiments. Will leave it at that :)

  143. Well said Proud-

    My husband spent a year in Viet Nam in 1968 and when he came home and returned to college he was heaped with abuse from his fellow (younger & ignorant about the war) students. He finally couldn’t take it and quit. And, yes, he was called “baby killer” more than once. What a shame.

    He and I are totally against this war and were from the beginning. Let’s hope for better things this year.

  144. Palin, the “moose hunter in heels” as you put it, has no shot in 2012 or whenever. She was a one act play and I think everbody has seen behind the curtain on her play.

  145. I agree…How can some people not like bacon? it doesnt make any sense.

    I hope the war ends soon, ive seen too much of it and it aint preety for neither side, peace should break out all over the planet.
    I hope you nephew will come home again soon (he hangs out with the best of them so i guess he will be ok).

    Have a good 2009!…I didnt make any resolutions except to go out birding more often :)

  146. Good morning to you all!

    I was scrolling through the comments and thinking how to respond to Capel the troll, when I read all y our comments. You said all I was thinking and more. And put so much more elooquently than I could have.
    I was hopinng that with the NewYear, all th e trolls had lelft u s.

    I was especially touched by the comments about Viet Nam. My oldest sonmissed going to Viet Nam by a fluke. Near the end of the 60.s he enlisted. Passed all kinds of tests and he had his career mapped out, a medic. Was discharged after 31 days due to a genetic muscle disease. It showed u p when he couldnt face in basic trainning!!

    Have lots of tamales ready for the porch gathering.

  147. Sorry, left a word out. it was about face.

  148. Lao-Tzu, a Chinese philosopher who lived around 2600 years ago said, “A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” This is one of my favorite quotes. Take a look around and see if you find joy in a world in disharmony. Rather, we see more unhappiness and distress than there’s ever been, and much of it is our own faults. We as a collective nation somehow don’t seem to understand what we do to ourselves. History has a way of repeating itself in the most unpleasant of ways, usually through hatred and war. We keep re-electing the same politicians who put us there, and then bemoan how these bad things come about.

    What’s wrong with this picture? It’s about time for a change and thank goodness there’s finally some hope that change can truly happen. Lao-Tzu believed that simplicity was the key to truth and freedom. He encouraged his followers to build up personal power, and to use that power to lead life with love and without force. How wonderful a world it would be if we could actually live that way!

    Whatever you feel, whether or not you believe in war, or support the war, how wonderful that for the most part we can all respect the men and women who make the tough choice to be there in the thick of things. Maybe there’s hope for us yet!

    He also said “the truth is not always beautiful”. Helen, thank you for reminding us that we are responsible for taking our own steps forward, steps for positive change. People may argue with what you say, but I think you say your truth, and you say it beautifully. Happy New Year, and God Bless all our sons and daughters in harm’s way.

  149. Magaret, you just always seem to put into wonderful words, what I was thinking and wanted to say but just didn’t know how to express it.

  150. Hi Galz and guyz
    what really scares me is that trolls like Capel can arm themselfs legally in your country, it really scares the s**t out of me.

    I am against guns, but thinking that a troll like that migyht opoint one at me makes me rethink if that is a good decision.
    And don’t get me wrong, i am NOT against killing trolls, I just think soemone in a more stable mental position than mine should (Pi??? LOL) make the decision WHO should get shot for WHAT!

    Well, enough sarcasm, if we kill every poor sot with an IQ below 30 we end up with no politicians at all…………..

    Aww just can’t stop….. :-p

    Werner
    (BTW I am open to other solutions (see above) as long as we can make them work, until then……. aww here I go AGAIN!)

  151. BTW Geytdog

    avatar created 4 hours ago but still a noshow here in the blog……

  152. And about the SP bitch, how about have her work in a soup-kitchen for single teenage mom’s?
    That’ll show her the benefitz of her politics first hand……. not that I would think it’ll make her think (and with WHAT would she do that….) I just think politicians should benefit from their politics from time to time…..

  153. We can all hope they come home safe. However, I think more needs to be done. Too many times these young people come home to a Vet Admin that doesn’t care. PTSD is a major problem right now and the VA doesn’t seem to want to do anything about it, the patient is punished for seeking help, and no one seems to know what to do.
    So, we need to bring them home safe and get them healthy, both mentally and physically.

  154. Happy New Year, Helen and Margaret! May 2009 bring you and your families health and prosperity.

    Helen, there is a wonderful organization I belong to called Soldier’s Angels. You “adopt” a Soldier and agree to write one card or letter per week, and one care package per month.

    There are several “specialty” groups with SA, like the Angel Bakers group – you guessed it! I belong to the Angel Bakers, too! We bake once per month for our heroes.

    I encourage your readers to come and take a look at the website. Giving your kindness and support to the troops isn’t difficult, and it takes only moments of your time:

    http://www.soldiersangels.org

    Keep blogging! I look forward to reading your thoughts and opinions.

    Mandi

  155. Happy 2009 Helen and Margaret! My new year’s resolution is (as it has been for the past decade or more) to not make new year’s resolutions. They are simply too much pressure and there is always a heapin’ helpin’ of disappointment in myself by the end of the year. Instead, I try to make little improvements in my life in small increments. I excercise more, eat better, read more, learn to be more forgiving, work at being a better friend, parent and partner in little helpings all year long.

    Thanks for your reminders about being active participants in the democratic process. We did protest the war, but still we went to war. There must have been more we could have done. Still, it’s better to look forward and I still believe we, as a country did something right this past election. Things have got to improve. But we can’t sit around and wait for it to do so. We need to keep hollering and insist that it does.

  156. OT ~ I watch the MSM for the laughs and late night talk for news and information. Someone’s gotta keep track of the Shrub:

    How’d He Do?

    Δ

  157. Teri,
    I recommend you skip the Starbucks and support your local neighborhood coffee house. You know, the one owned by someone in your city rather than a huge faceless corporation. It’s great that community stuff can get done at Starbucks, I just get the sense that with all those paper cups and mass produced uniformity stuff, they don’t really care about your community, they just care about getting rich off milk and coffee and horribly pollute the environment in the process. Start a mutiny! (this is all said with genuine affection and respect for your ability to get out into the community and talk w/ your friends and neighbors)
    -Jenny

  158. Community Organizer:

    please read the following, written by a thoughtful, educated man who specializes in foreign policy and is a published author:

    “Friends: Among the important anti-war principles carefully enumerated by the Iraq Veterans Against the War group, consider No. 2 and No. 5. (See IVAW’s “Why We’re Against the War,” http://ivaw.org/faq .)

    Namely:

    2. The Iraq war violates international law.
    5. Soldiers have the right to refuse illegal war.

    Hence, to repeat what I wrote to a handful of you in recent days: In any case in which a war is criminal, to support any aspect of the war is to support international criminality.

    This, I believe, is morally degenerate. Not should we permit any ambivalence about it.

    Colleagues of mine and I routinely use a phrase that we take from the Final Judgment of the International Military Tribunal for the Trial of German Major War Criminals (September 30, 1946), specifically “The Common Plan or Conspiracy and Aggressive War,” wherein the Tribunal stated (emphasis added):

    “The charges in the Indictment that the defendants planned and waged aggressive wars are charges of the utmost gravity. War is essentially an evil thing. Its consequences are not confined to the belligerent states alone, but affect the whole world. To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”

    The No. One Crime for which the Allied Tribunal convicted the Nazi leadership was the crime against the peace — starting wars of aggression by invading and militarily seizing other sovereign states.
    Hence, to reaffirm IVAW’s principle No. 2: “The Iraq war violates international law.” Yes. It most certainly does. It is an illegal war.
    Additionally, you will notice that Chapter I of the Charter of the United Nations (June, 1945) demands of states that they “refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state” (Art. 2(4)), and take “effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace” (Art. 1(1)).
    But, in point of fact, the United States is the world’s leading violator of the UN Charter; indeed, this is what the United States has been throughout the entire post-WW II era.
    Hence, to reaffirm IVAW’s principle No. 2: The Iraq war violates the UN Charter. It is an illegal war.

    Perhaps most important, to repeat Nuremberg Chief Prosecutor Robert Jackson’s memorable words (and recall that Jackson was an American Supreme Court Justice on leave for the Nuremberg proceedings), which he uttered in London during the planning stage for the Tribunal (see Jackson’s first series of comments in the “Minutes of Conference Session of July 23, 1945,” International Conference on Military Trials, London, 1945):

    “If certain acts in violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us.”

    However, as is the case with all exercises of international law, before Nuremberg or since, self-exemptions follow not from the justice of the violators, but from the power of the violators and the impunity that follows. But simply because the leadership of the U.S. Government has been getting away with Nuremberg-class crimes since 1945 does not mean that any of us, as U.S. citizens, should accept it as anything other than what it really is.

    Hence, to reaffirm IVAW’s principle No. 5, along with No. 2: The Iraq war violates international law, and is an illegal war. — Soldiers have every right to refuse to serve in this illegal war.

    If and when they do refuse to serve, they deserve our utmost support.”

    My remarks are not based in misplaced anger. As i stated, i have come to this conclusion as a result of extensive reading, much thought, and a need to conform my beliefs to action. I do not take this stand lightly. I take this stand philosophically, with due diligence.

  159. Hi
    an appeal on your fantasy:
    I need suggestions for a new Nickname for our Prime (More or less prime , anyway) minister Stehpen Harper, up to know (and until Jan. 20th) I dubbed him “Petit’ George” for all the brown nosing he does down south, but what do I call him when big George is fading from view and minds???????

    Suggestions welcome, and pls keep in mind, if there is ONE politician that has LESS brains than “W” that’s him!

    Werner

  160. Dear Helen, Margaret and everybody,

    About the YELLOW ‘Support the Troops’ magnetic ribbons. I think the COLOR of the ribbons is significant. Those sporting the ribbons are not the ones doing the heavy lifting. The kids who are in the military don’t have any idea of what they are getting themselves into. However, once they sign on the dotted line, they have no choice but blind obedience. Does the word
    ‘insubordination’ ring a bell?

    We patiently teach our children to be nice and share with each other. Then when some of them are 18 or so, put them in uniforms for ‘basic training’ and send them out to kill people, if even by remote control. A TOTAL reversal of everything they have learned from childhood. Is it any wonder that there is so much PTSD? I’m surprised there isn’t a lot more!

    War is nothing more than contract slavery. Some try, but you can’t blame the slaves for slavery! The labor of slaves DID produce fine plantations but without any benefit to the slaves with the possible exception of survival – for some.

    After millennia, slavery was legally abolished in most of the world. When are we going to legally abolish war?

    Here on this blog, many refer to collective ‘trolls’. A ‘troll’ cannot be expected to think beyond its capabilities anymore than a one-year old can be expected to be potty trained. We have to patiently wait until the muscles for elimination have developed for control and the thought processes have matured enough to know there is a better time and place than in its pants! In the meantime, we have to put diapers on them. In some cases, ‘Depends’ may be required. We can’t waste energy on fretting, berating or even spanking a one-year old to get him/her potty trained.

    Aloha!

    Jean

  161. Hi Greytdog,

    I hope you will get on with your book! Obviously, you have the talent to write it. It is generally accepted that talent is only about 5% of the accomplishment. The other 95% requires effort.

    Put a post-it pad and pen on your bedside table. Jot down ‘bon mots’ as they pop into your thoughts. You will sleep better! About once a week, clear out the clutter of post-it notes and put them in a computer file named ‘Handwritten Notes’, IF you can still read your nocturnal scribblings. That can be a challenge!

    Good luck.

    Aloha!

    Jean

  162. Thanks for taking up where Molly Ivins left off. . .nothing better than a tart tongued Texas mom.

  163. What I’d like to know is why Capel is sitting “here” on his/her sorry ass, and not over “there” killing people, since it’s so important.
    Wars should be fought by the people who want them. Plain and simple.

  164. Maybe I should have said they should be fought by the people who start them.

  165. The bad guys are the arrogant mommy’s boys and henpecked males who seek immediate gratification without consideration for outcome. That’s what’s wrong with America. Feminism has ruined America. http://www.SacredWarrior.org

  166. Capel,

    Do you really believe we are safer now than we were before the war started? I understand you not wanting your brother’s service to be in vain, but unfortunately, we are no better off now than we were seven years ago. In fact, we are much worse off in all respects.

    I hope your brother comes back unharmed.

    AG

  167. Braveman7- thanks for the laugh! It’s been a hard day today (6 euthanasias) and I needed a good belly laugh. Nothing like a neanderthal to provide that! Oh my honey child – you sure do have a lot of anger under that beer belly. Sacred Warriors! Oh my that’s even funnier than your comments! Really you should get a job with GEICO as a pitchman. ROFLMAO!!! BWahahahahaha

  168. Hey Braveman7:

    Why don’t you go to those groups of guys that get together, run around naked and beat drums by the fireside?

    Feminism indeed.

    What a maroon!

  169. He-man types like you are just looking for a good woman to smack you around.

  170. I don’t know if you will read this or not Helen and Margaret, but I want to share my 2 favorite gifts
    One from my Grandson and his wife, it was a huge basket full of food items for the foodshelf I volunteer at, and the other was a basket from my oldest Granddaughter.
    It had wine and cheese and chocolate bars..I don’t know what she had in mind but I loved it…
    I have tried for years to try nad get the kids to donate to a charity in our name..maybe someday.
    As for your New years resolutions
    Mine is ..”Not to make one this Year”
    and yes Sarah Palin is a bitch….
    her son is off in Iraq because he got involved in drugs and they forced him to join the guards..
    She is one big sicko…
    Happy New Year Ladies..

  171. Hi Folks – in keeping with the “spirit” of Helen’s post concerning gifts given for the purpose of simply giving. Welllllll… lots of folks have come up with good, sustainable ideas of giving gifts that keep on giving. Here’s another idea:
    Charities hurt in Madoff case get charity

  172. oops! Sorry about the interruption – Emma the Cat decided she needed the computer keyboard as her bridge to somewhere. . .
    Anyway – to continue – Charities Hurt in Madoff Case get Charity http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28528375/
    There is a section in the article that talks about how one group raised over $300K – through mostly donations $60 and under. Remember the campaign how many of Obama’s donor list were small (in amount) but mighty (in number) – how about everyone pick a charity hit by Madoff and give? There’s one group in Alabama that provides mental health counseling, addiction counseling, plus tutoring to juvenile delinquents so they don’t become permanent residents of the legal system. Another group in Boston provides much needed heating oil, blankets, as well as food to senior citizens in the community. Other groups provide much need healthcare to low income & rural neighborhoods without medical access. . . and so on. Each of these groups are facing the loss of monies and in some cases will have to shut down – because of one man’s greed and arrogance.

  173. Dear Helen, Margaret and Everyone,

    This is the story of a young soldier back in the pre-historic times of World War II. It will probably be a three-parter.

    Classroom education is only a tiny fraction of what each of us learns in life. When I was little, from preschool through elementary school, we lived in Northern Colorado on seventeen acres abutting the foothills of the Rocky Mountains. I had an older sister and a younger sister. My brother, R.G., was 9 years older than me and was my hero.

    When he was in high school he and a buddy tramped around out in the mountains all the time. They caught and killed rattlesnakes and brought them home in a gunnysack. No guns. My dad had guns but wouldn’t let R.G. use them.

    R.G. and his friend skinned the rattlesnakes and nailed them to the side of the barn to cure. Rattlesnake skins were and are very popular for Western belts, boots and such. My mother had a hissie-fit at first but my dad said it was OK because R.G. knew what he was doing. Mother was overruled. So she got out books with pictures of all kinds of snakes and taught us, my sisters and me, the difference between poisonous ones and harmless ones. A pointy-head denoted the venomous ones, a rounded head, harmless.

    Anyway, R.G. and his buddy sold those rattlesnake skins and with the money R.G. bought a horse. She, ‘Dottie’, was a sorry swaybacked old nag with a nasty disposition but R.G. loved her and he was the only one who could control her. He taught me to ride her around the yard. She knew better than to buck me off if R.G. were in her view. If she and I got out of R.G.’s sight though, she would just sit down on her haunches and I would slide off the back. She then headed for the foothills.

    Once when I had a birthday party, R.G. took all my little guests for a ride around the yard, leading Dottie by the reins. That made R.G. an even bigger hero in my eyes and my birthday party was the talk of the town!

    R.G. had a beautiful singing voice. He sang the leading roles in productions while he was in high school. He also played the guitar. A couple of summers he had a job at a ‘Dude Ranch’. He was a guide, taking the guests out on horseback tours of the mountain trails. At night he would entertain the guests by singing and playing the guitar around the fire. I well remember hearing him play and sing the “Streets of Laredo” at home.
    These are the lyrics:

    “As I walked out in the streets of Laredo,
    As I walked out in Laredo one day,
    I spied a young cowboy all wrapped in white linen.
    All wrapped in white linen and cold as the clay.

    ‘I see by your outfit that you are a cowboy.’
    These words he did say, as I boldly stepped by.
    ‘Come sit here beside me and hear my sad story,
    For I’m shot in the heart and I surely will die.’

    ‘Well, sir, once in the saddle, I used to go dashing.
    Yes, sir, once in the saddle I was a young brave.
    But today I got dressed up. Today I went gambling.
    And today I will die and be laid in my grave’.

    ‘So send six sturdy cowboys to carry my coffin,
    And let six lovely ladies come sing me a song.
    And beat the drum slowly. And play the fife lowly.
    For I’m a young cowboy what knows he done wrong.’

    ‘My friend, could you get me a taste of cool water?
    For my lips they are parched and I’m terrible dry.’
    But before I could fetch him that dipper of water,
    His spirit departed. That cowboy, he died.

    So we beat the drum slowly and played the fife lowly.
    And we wept in our grief, as we carried him along.
    For we all loved that cowboy, so brave and so handsome.
    Yes, we loved that young cowboy, although he done wrong.”

    What does music do for the soul? Our sense of hearing discerns the sounds of speech much as our sense of sight clearly sees in black and white. However, vision in COLOR adds immeasurably to our enjoyment of life. The SOUND of music evokes and enhances our emotions far more than ordinary speech. That’s what music does for the soul.

    R.G. also had a pair of tame white rats in a cage. Pretty soon there were LOTS of little hairless pink baby rats! It was a dandy sex education for us little kids. Occasionally he carried them around in his shirt and took them out to let them run around. They were his pets. He let me gently pet them and play with them.

    I had nephritis at age 12 and was very sick when Pearl Harbor was attacked. We were all huddled around and heard it on the radio. Athough the war clouds had been gathering over Europe for some time we knew that now we were in it too.

    My mother’s older sister, a widow, was visiting us. Hootie was her youngest son. Both he and R.G. were in the armed services. When we all realized what it was really about, I started to cry and said, “Oh, R.G. and Hootie will be killed.”

    They were.

    Aloha!

    Jean

  174. Gifts. Ah, yes, the suitable for age by sex. I’m lucky – I don’t get many of those any more, but I certainly used to. My condolences.

    Also, Helen, dear lady, have I mentioned that I want to be you when I grow up?

  175. braveman7-

    Oh for crap’s sake- grow up.
    Or go away…
    No one’s world is smaller than the one belonging to a man (or woman) who thinks the other gender is THE OTHER…
    We’re all humans , wingnut…

  176. Oh Jean! What a beautiful brother…I am so very sorry.

  177. Just did a recon on the site offered up by Braveman7 – I think this is the male version of Team Sarah. You know, for such “upstanding” and “self-righteous” individuals, these groups sure do worship at the altar of the sacred genitalia. Anyone want to clue them in that such focus is very Roman Bacchanalian??? Anyway, Mr. Braveman7, you and your ilk are neither Brave, nor Warriors, and certainly not Sacred. You are puny, frightened little boys who act in pathetic, inauthentic ways that destroy your souls while you try to intimidate and castigate people who will not be bullied. Be gone. Go back to your cave and drum your drum and howl at the moon. But beware coyote.

  178. After scanning Braveman7’s blog, it reminded me of this movie clip:

    Will Farrell in ‘Ladies Man’

    Δ

  179. The saddest thing about that “braveman7″ nonsense is that this world contains morons, rednecks, and bubbas who actually agree with him! And, secondarily, that some women are so browbeaten and whipped that they, too, will not question the idiocy of the words he wrote.

    More importantly, my husband, an INTELLIGENT man, warns me that most of the attacks on personal computers today come through the browser or related applications. So if I click on any web link, not knowing what it is, it just might be someone trying to infect my system with malware. If my system is completely updated and has also ALL the patches, I might be safe. But malware is a huge issue of concern.

    I am already cautious about not opening questionable email messages with questionable attachments. However, my husband reminds me that anyone linking to any blog could possibly take advantage of my computer if I click on links posted on those blogs. Those links could lead absolutely anywhere.

    So, my husband was a bit upset to see what a whacko job this braveman7 crap is. And I promise to be more careful in the future about not clicking on any old link in any old blog!

    Anyway, as usual, Greytdog growled beautifully in her very own inimitable way at the bully boy! Enough of his howling and whining and blaming strong women for his shortcomings and inadequacies.

  180. This brave_ _ _7 should not sully the name of all the decent men in the world…
    I’ve been thinking about this kind of thing since Maven told that trollie _ _ _ tradesman to drop the UAW…
    Maybe _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _7 should quit mocking the truly brave too…
    Come to think of it, 7 never did anything stupid enough to get tangled up in this person’s kind of horse pucky either…

  181. O Jean…such a sad, sad story…

  182. Elise,

    your husband is wise to caution you about opening unknown links, although it does cut down on the ‘complete’ experience and enjoyment of ’surfing’.

    I have a very special, personal ‘virus checker’.

    All I can say is I will never knowingly link to any harmful site and promise to alert my fellow ‘Wedgies’ of any shady links that others may post. I learned long ago to give most posters the benefit of the doubt that they are not malicious.

    Same goes IRL (in real life). Most people are just humans trying to get thru as best they can without inflicting or incurring harm.

    My wingnut friends and family think everyone is a criminal or ‘terrist’ until proven innocent, and then they still have doubts. What a horrible way to go thru life. I think they tend to project too much but I luv ‘em anyway. ;)

    Δ

  183. Whirled Peas, you seem to be a really good guy. I’m not worried about you. But my husband is a computer guru for an internationally known hospital, and he tries to keep me safe back at home on my own pc, which, due to my great ignorance of computers, is a full-time job. His caution tonight really got my attention, especially after I shared with him what an incredible nutjob that other guy appears to be.

  184. Jean, thank you for telling us about R.G. and Hootie. Your brother sounds like he was a wonderful young man. I’m sorry you didn’t get to grow old with him in your life. It reminds me that losing my brother would be like losing my arm…my RIGHT arm.

  185. I’ve missed you over the holidays! I gave my husband’s grandmother a framed picture of her and her husband dancing at their daughter’s wedding. She’s 95 and her husband and her daughter (my mother in law) both died last year. She seemed very happy with it, although she did say she didn’t recognize herself that long ago (almost 50 years)!! I don’t always give her a gift, I refuse to get something just to get something. I hope she didn’t think it was crap, I thought it was very special, but you never know. All we can do is try.

    I support our troops. My husband is a vet – he went to Iraq the first time around. I wish these people who are so hot to “support the troops” really did. Why is it only supporting the troops if you support the war? How about supporting them by equipping them properly to survive that war? How about paying for them to recieve proper medical care after they’ve been shot up in that war? How about supporting them by putting a system in place to help them thrive in civilian life?

    I also believe in God and I pray. I don’t feel the need to stuff my faith down anybody elses throat. I hope that people see the way I live my life and think that they’d like to do that too.

    I get damn sick and tired of seeing and hearing these so called “Christians” saying that people who believe the things I believe are unpatriotic and unAmerican, not to mention “moral”. Why do those “Christians” think it’s wrong to take care of people?

    Sorry for the very long post and rant. Sometimes it just gets to be too much! I cannot wait until January 20! It will be so nice to have a reasonable, intelligent person in control of our country again.

  186. Braveman7 would be a brave man if he happened to be a vet, or a serviceman…from his web site, I don’t think either is true. So he is full of bravado, puffed up by blaming any and all problems on females.

    Be a man by being responsible for yourself and your own actions.

    Jean- wonderful story of your brother and his friend.

  187. I went to braverman’s link and I got concerned where I was going;I thought it was a weird aryan nation type place and I was worried that they might try to recruit me,but it was so wimpy wimpy wimpy that it seemed I must be wrong. I decided to get away as fast as possible before I got a bad virus and so I did not do much looking around. A REALLY CREEPY PLACE whew—need to be more careful in the future.

  188. OH NO now I am getting pop ups for Viagra! on my screen. By By Braverman

  189. M&H,

    If you were combat veterans, of this or any other war, you’d know in your heart a secret not often shared with those that have never had the experience.

    Although society may indoctrinate the young, and the Services may train the soldier to engage an enemy, in the end it is for their brothers and sisters to their left and right they fight for.

    Professional soldiers that repeatedly return to combat voluntarily do so to protect and save the lives of their charges. I feel it isn’t for the buzz of killing someone on the other side or some ideology.

    In 27 years of service I met only one professional soldier that was strictly ideology motivated. He was a child in Nazi occupied Denmark. He was an Army E-7 killed in a helo-repelling training accident at the north end of Ft Bragg (your SF nephew knows the place) …the gentleman was pretty nuts as I’m remember him now.

    Want to support the troops? How about saying “Welcome Home” when you see a troop in uniform with a long rifle above the left pocket or a unit patch on the right shoulder.

    How about increasing the pay so the soldier’s family doesn’t have to rely on food stamps and welfare.

    How about writing your Senators and Congressmen and demand more support for single-parenting soldiers, sailors and Marines that are deployed.

    There is currently a terrible and disgraceful situation wherein the custodial parent is deployed, and the non-custodial parent obtains a court ordered reversal of custody. How demoralizing is that to the troop 9,000 miles away in a combat zone?

    How about supporting our service people after they’ve completed their service and need jobs, housing, mental and physical care.

    For every flag draped casket we see, there are thousands and thousands that have left limbs, minds and hope for what others consider a normal life (or a decent nights sleep) in jungles, mountains, cities and desserts around the world.

    Me? E-1 to O-5, Army 1971 to 1998. I’m blessed…I sleep.

    My New Year resolution is be a better man, friend, husband and father.

  190. Sophie said-

    “These guys came home and were so full of anger and frustration that expressed itself in aggression both physical and verbal .. none of that is remembered, and if it is remembered, it is never spoken about outloud. ”

    Boy- I’m having a hard time understanding how different our neighborhoods are…

    Yes- so very many Viet Nam vets came home a mess and made a mess of their lives and their families’ lives… far too many. They came home defeated in war and shunned at home. They- especially those who came to understand what and how they had been lied to by our govt- suffered horribly. Far too many were not only ignored by the VA but reviled by far too many chapters of the VFW ( whole nother nasty chapter here) . I followed the sickening tales of cousins and friends beset by far too many of certain kinds of cancers being denied the chance of even being heard properly by the VA or general govt.

    PTSD was considered a girly-man’s reaction to war by waaaayyyy too many folks til the toll on vets was well beyond redemption…We buried one of those poor souls in my neighborhood a couple weeks ago.

    Yup- Viet Nam vets’ anger and frustration- and yes for some, aggression- was talked about a lot. The conversations about the fellows’ behavior is and was broader than the symptoms you describe and arguments about context still abound. Some folks blamed it on weakness of the individual soldier, some understood the pain… Where I live it’s still talked about a lot.

    ————-

    “Soldiers are not gods, they are not mythmakers, they are not from the movies. And some of them, most especially recently, scare the living daylights out of civilians, both in Iraq and here at home.”

    Of course, soldiers are not gods etc.- they are everyday people.

    And some of them, currently, should scare the hell out of other everyday people. Some of them are nasty, mean, dangerous jerks who have no business in uniform.

    Most, being everyday people, currently, are exhausted from multiple tours, still trying to do what they think is right or suffering disillusionment with what they thought they were doing and what they have come to see they were doing, wounded body and/or soul…

    But being everyday people- most of them will somehow muddle through… if they live. They deserve every outreach we have to offer in my book.

    ————————

    ” I cannot and will not support people who are actively involved in international war crimes (if the war itself is an international war crime, then what culpability, accountability do its participants hold for their participation?), and everyone serving in Iraq voluntarily is doing just that, whether we want to admit it or not, whether they are our relatives or friends or not.

    You have every right to withold your own support for American soldiers and vets whom you disagree with. It is more than laudable to turn your own efforts towards soldiers who make the difficult and wrenching choice to stand against this war. They need champions.

    I disagree with you about the culpability/accountability standard you have or seem to have . It is not mine.

    Helen ,with her big broad brush, has reminded us we are ALL culpable and accountable in this war including you and me . Because we could not/did not stop it we are a type of ineffective, passive participant. ( I don’t think all the whooping and hollering and letter writing I did was passive but it ended up as useless as shouting in the 40mph wind blowing outside my door right now…)

    All the young men and women , tapped to go, presumed to be volunteers – folks who made fully concious decisions about why and what they were doing.

    (PFFFTTT! The volumes of philosophical, psychological, sociological, every-other-ogical work that cover what constitutes voluntary behavior in human beings would keep us busy for years…)

    All the wahoos in the Bush camp who trumped up this unsupportable war…

    All the scared spitless hide-in-their-closet-kill-the-terrorists-keep-em-away-from-me Americans who bought the Bush BS…

    Whoever your unnamed writer is -he is correct this war is illegal at certain levels, immoral on more levels, and insupportable on all levels.

    That being said, I think the degrees of culpabilty and accountability are many and myriad. At no level should everyday soldiers be held to the accountability level for the overall war that the Chess-playing-bad-guy-kingpins are. It is not an accepted rule of law to hold runners as accountable as dealers… (exception- specific real crimes like abusing prisoners in Abu Gra-however-you-spell-it and Lt Calley and My Lai ,etc )

    I will NEVER ask soldiers who did what they truly thought they should to bear any responsibilty for the war itself if we don’t nail the BIG bad guys a bazillion times worse, if we don’t nail ourselves and our stupidity and greed, etc.

    If we manage all that I might ask our soldiers to do a time-out and take some philosophy and history courses or some such thing… AFTER we fix em up with medical care, school opportunities, mental health counselling if needed…

    Jeez- Should we bring back the draft…? Did I really live long enough to say that? And draft we ladies too-!

    Make everyone have a stake in thinking this crap through before we do it again…?Probably not … the Bush’s and Cheney’s will always weasel.

    ——————————

    Helen-

    I make the same resoultion EVERY day… I gave up purposefully climbing on high horses many years ago as I always fell off and busted something. I promise everyday to be sure I am not climbing on anything else higher than my shoes. I think I just blew it again… Tomorrow…

    Grandma Katie- Tamales! yay!

    Jack- Thank you.

  191. This world needs more people like you Jack.

    Thanks, well said.

    BCO

  192. forgot to add: check out change.gov if you want to be heard.

    Also, sophie, I see what you are saying, but I respectfully disagree with you. The people at the top need to be held responsible, the people who have been sent over there have been sold a bill of goods that they will be paying for for the rest of their lives, if they are lucky enough to have a rest of their lives.

  193. Jack:

    I also served in the Military from 1975 to 1979 active and from 1979 to 1996 Reserve.

    I also was active in the Veterans Caucus here in my state and the issues you bring up are ones that we press for. We are not just people here (arm chair quarter backs if you will) complaining about things we do not know anything about. Many of the posters here have some sort of military experience, so I do feel we have the right to speak because we have earned it.

    I commend your service. I think many of us just wish we would strive for peace as hard as we fight in wars. It seems to me that in Iraq we marched in without thinking of long term consequences.

  194. Pi
    I have never considered your posts here to be you on a soap box. Your words are always mirrors of my own thoughts, although you put them down so much better than I.

    Please do not stop speaking what you feel. I learn from you.

  195. Ah, resolutions….
    1. Continue low carb, and cutting sugar from my diet. So far, (mostly) so good! (But, sob, that means no pie for me!)

    2. Write to Mr. Obama to ask him to please discard the term “Homeland” Security.

    I think it’s unAmerican. “Homeland” smacks of the Fatherland of Nazi Germany, or Holy Mother Russia. The US has never used ‘homeland’ to describe itself.

    Yeah, I know, it’s petty. But for a lot of us, it’s almost a one word representation of many of Bush’s most egregious acts, and we don’t need any more reminders after he’s gone. We’ve already got too many.

  196. I don’t know about you all, but I am ready to get this bus rolling!!!! I CANNOT wait until we have our new President!! How wonderful to be PROUD of being an American Citizen once again. YES…we can.

  197. Good Morning everyone!

    Moving slow this morning. It is pouring rain and very gloomy here. I am happy the snow is gone and it has warmed up but I think I need a little sunlight to get me going! LOL

    Jack and Alaska Pi thank you for your wonderful posts this morning. You covered what keeps rolling around in my mind much better than I ever could.

    Sophie while I approve and applaud all education and it is one of my soapbox issues for this country, there is in my mind a case of balance, and real everyday practical experience can teach as much as a book or time in a classroom. I have never said I support the war because I don’t. I did not vote for George Bush in either election and I want to see George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and all of the other liars in this administration be brought up on charges. I wish you luck in your studies.

    Jean that was a beautiful story thank you fro sharing.

    Really glad I did not check out Creepy’s link! From what I gather by all of your posts it is another jerk.

    Elsie I get the lecture daily from my husband about links also. I have had problems periodicaly from viruses and the Mr. get so cranky when I have to rely on him to undo what I picked up. It is not worth the hours of his complaining to go against his warnings! :)

    Hope everyone has a wonderful day!

  198. Good morning again, M & H fans!

    ********
    Just realized that I didn’t leave a “resolution” in my post yesterday, so here goes: first, I mean to get myself back into physical shape, because without that I am not much good to anyone; secondly, I will continue to spend time with and always communicate with the grandchildren so that they, who are already staunch Obama supporters, will recognize what they must continue to do if we really want peace at home and abroad; finally, I will get back into the workplace where I myself can do something meaningful. The politicans are great talkers, but basically full of hot air.
    I “officially” retired in July 2007 and am now in my mid-sixties, but still have a lot that I can do and am well-placed to do so on an international level. So, I am going back out into the fray. This is no time to rest.

    *******
    Jean: what a lovely story … so sorry about the tragic ending.

    Werner: how about “W Lite” for your PM?

    suburbancorrespondent: I hear you, loudly and clearly, and your heartache is my own. US policy, encouragement, funding and arms enable the ongoing slaughter.

    And to all of you other M & H fans: you truly do make the world a brighter place. Please keep on doing what you’re doing.

  199. Alaska Pi,

    Great Post re: Vietnam. I agree and I was one of those drafted. People also need to understand the drug use in Nam was quite high. People could be shot tomorrow and easy access to drugs, so a lot of Vietnam soldiers got high. They brought their need for drugs back to the states.

    The destruction of war to those who soldier is amazing. It takes years for the terrors and emotional destruction to play out. Cheney and the draft dodging crrew would have no idea about the impact of war though. Bush is no better. Had I missed meetings as Bush did, I would have been court martialed.

    Have a good day all.

  200. Lori –

    You are spot on in your remarks about “Homeland.” From the beginning, I’ve been making statements that echo yours. The Republicans can’t see it; the Democrats shrug it off.

    We will never be a world leader when we care about the “homeland.”

  201. i resolve to:
    work for a better tomorrow
    be nice
    keep my finger on the pulse
    read M&H every chance i get

    @spirant

  202. With a grandma like you, I’d be the best gift giver EVER, because hugs are all I can afford.

  203. Hi braveman7
    or should I better call you “braindead7″?

    If feminism ruined America, well it dind’t do a through enough job!

    Hey Girlz, pls go ahead and FINISH the job!!!

    If this blog is the essence of that ruin (Margaret and Helen SOUND all like feminists to me, No?) than I AM LOVIN’ IT!

    Sacred my ass, since when did ANY warrior worth the salt he eats fight Women?

    Last time I looked our (the warriors) main goal was to protect women in general, the family if we had one and all children that came from that (women AND family I mean)……

    Or did I get something wrong here?

    But, you know, I actually wanted to THANK braveman7 for again pointing my focus the the things that are important and essentail in live……
    See, even trolls can have a (if unintened) positive impact.

    I once had this (dream) vision, where live turned out to be a hugh (earthlike hugh) ball of stinking shit, and sunk into it was a small bit of good with a small ring attached to it, and in that dream I had a hook through that ring and was pulling my heart out to safe that bit of good from sinking into the goo……..

    This is how I, more or less, see live, and I just hope that I don’t loose my strengh to pull on the little good I can find and always find a few friends that can give me a hand, so I can take a break once in a while, until I come back to relieve them again, saving what little good we can find in this world….

    We have this German saying I really love:
    “Wer keinen Mut zum traeumen hat, hat keine kraft zum kaempfen!”
    what would translate into
    “Who doesn’t dare to dream, hasn’t got any power to fight!”

    In this semse, DREAM ON!

    Werner

  204. Hi Elsie
    from another Computer Guru (work with IT since 1983) to you and your husband:
    get a good all around virus and intrusion checker (If you can afford apporx. $80.00/year Norton 360 (from Symantec.com) is a rather good allround solution that has also intrusion protection and internet safety part additional to the virus checker, and thanks whirled peas for pre-checking sites before posting links, we all should do it but not all are capable.

    But with a good all-around package you are as safe as it gets, make a backup once in a while and when you get hit by a “driveby’ website THAT WAS FASTER THAN YOUR av-PROGRAMM (uups sorry CAPS) than you need to clean up and start over, but this didn’t happen to me in the last 3 years ONCE, so chacnes are slim if you take care.

    And for all of you on extrem small budgets, there are a few free AV programms out there, one is

    AVG
    http://free.avg.com/download-avg-anti-virus-free-edition

    the other a trial version of Norton AV/Internet security/360 but they are only free from 30 days and hard to remove if you DON’T want to buy them afterwards
    http://shop.symantecstore.com/store/symnahho/en_US/ContentTheme/ThemeID.1795800/pbPage.hholandingpagewide

    if you can afford the 79.99 take 360, it works mostly automatic in the background and is a rather through protection, the AVG will only protect you from viruses though, not intrusion, drive by and malware.
    (And not to insult personal taste and preferences, yes Panda, McAffee and the rest are not worse than what I recommended here….)

    If you think you got mal and add-ware try
    Spybot,
    it’s free for private use (asking for DONATIONS to keep developing, though)
    http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
    I just love this baby….

    So, hope that helped anyone needing help in this cases….

    Werner

  205. communityorganizerWA: not understanding your comment. i am not a student and i was not quoting an educator. i was quoting a foreign policy expert who writes about international issues. and, for me, i do not see a disconnect between being aware of historical precedent and international treaty requirements (fundamentally addressed in our Constitution) and acting in accordance with them. We all need roadmaps to help direct us, and i am very comfortable in looking to our Constitution (as a living document) and to historical examples guidance. The notion that ‘thinkers’ are irrelevant or somehow ‘quaintly out of touch’ is part and parcel of the dumbing down of the American public we have been subjected to by the right wing for how many years now? I prefer not to be taken in by that nonsense and work actively to guard against its penetration into my thought processes. Talking truth to power is never easy (we have seen the littered bodies coming out of this Administration and from the vocal critics who spoke out) , and i surely do not expect every military member to refuse to fight an illegal war, but voicing their ability to do so and educating others on the notion that they do have a right to refuse based on Constitutional principles and founded in the Geneva Conventions in my mind should be welcomed, not dismissed or denigrated.

    Are we as a culture so detached from the notion of developing an ethical code to guide us in real life issues that i am the outlier here? If so, that is an enormous loss for this Country. And, perhaps, an irreparable one.

  206. communityorganizerWA: not understanding your comment. i am not a student and i was not quoting an educator. i was quoting a foreign policy expert who writes about international issues. and, for me, i do not see a disconnect between being aware of historical precedent and international treaty requirements (fundamentally addressed in our Constitution) and acting in accordance with them. We all need roadmaps to help direct us, and i am very comfortable in looking to our Constitution (as a living document) and to historical examples guidance. The notion that ‘thinkers’ are irrelevant or somehow ‘quaintly out of touch’ is part and parcel of the dumbing down of the American public we have been subjected to by the right wing for how many years now? I prefer not to be taken in by that nonsense and work actively to guard against its penetration into my thought processes. Talking truth to power is never easy (we have seen the littered bodies coming out of this Administration and from the vocal critics who spoke out) , and i surely do not expect every military member to refuse to fight an illegal war, but voicing their ability to do so and educating others on the notion that they do have a right to refuse based on Constitutional principles and founded in the Geneva Conventions in my mind should be welcomed, not dismissed or denigrated.

    Are we as a culture so detached from the notion of developing an ethical code to guide us in real life issues that i am the outlier here? If so, that is an enormous loss for this Country. And, perhaps, an irreparable one.

  207. Oh and BTW don’t worry, guyz like braindead7 usually missing excatly that (the brains) to create anything remoly dangerous on the IT side…

  208. to Lori from the upper left coast

    very good comparison !!
    I always pronouced that minister’s name as
    “Jerk-o**” it just is phonetically so close, and sometimes not only phonetically…..

    a rather sarcastic

    Werner

  209. They’d love to bring back the “Blockwart” system, one person responsible for tyhe good conduct of her/his “BlocK” of houses…..

  210. Oh yeah,
    just stumbled again about this (feminist!!!) questions, so to all the girlz out ther can you give me an answer? (really, really snigger!)

    If a man is al alone in the forest and speaks out aloud, and there is no woman there to hear him, …… is he still wrong?

    :-)

  211. Oh yeah, I just stumbled over this (Feminist!!!:-P) question, so to all the girlz out there, can you please give me an answer I (poor little male soul that I am) can understand?

    If a man is all alone in the woods and speaks out aloud, and there is no woman near to hear him,…..is he still wrong?
    :-)

    After 15 years of (more or less) happy marriage, I still wonder about that one

    Werner

  212. Werner,

    In response to your question about man all alone in the woods speaking to himself:

    No, he’s not wrong, he’s being considerate….

    Ha ha ha, after 27 year of happy marriage, I must admit it is nice to have a break from time to time. Men from Mars and Women from Venus. Women wish their men had better ears and Men wish their women had less mouth.

    Still haven’t seen your picture posted – I had a difficulty on my user name because I had used caps and a space between words, so when I un-capped and un-spaced, I got our doggie picture posted.

    Glad I didn’t go to Braverman’s link – sounds like going to Fox News. Actually, I did this morning just because my HGTV and DIY networks had junk stuff, and I was surfing the channels. Here they were dishing the Dems (including Obama) for now saying they support Burris as Blago’s Senate replacement pick and Fox is going on and on about how those Dems have gone against their word because 2 weeks ago they were condemning Burris. So I switch to CNN or CNBC and they are talking about Israel and the Gaza Peninsula, international financial woes, etc. It was like Fox couldn’t stop looking for ways to bash Obama, and the other news channels actually covered important news.

    I think Fox News should just change their name to RONG News – Republicans on Negative Grinds.

  213. Hi Mustang, uuups no, Honolulu Sally
    quiet a piece of “Doggie” you got there, but as a lover of real dogs, (anything above a foot and a half of shoulder hight, NOT cat’s with language problems…..), nice shot.

    I will try and check my account for the mentioned problems, thks.

    Werner

  214. Werner: re: “to all the girlz out there”

    Many years ago, I was a fire-breathing, radical feminist. Over time, however, I’ve become more accepting of other people’s differing views. If I don’t like them, I just try to leave well enough alone, save my breath about challenging them, recognize that other folks are entitled to their opinions, and go my own way.

    But if you want to know something about “feminism”, then I’m reaching waaaaaaaay back to the 70s for this one:

    A girl is a young person.

    A boy is a young person.

    A boy is not a man.

    A man is not a boy.

    A girl is not a woman.

    And, most importantly in this lesson, A WOMAN IS NOT A GIRL!

    Now, please know that I’m smiling here as I type this, and that I’m not trying to beat you over the head with this very personal insight. I just figured I’d give you a little trouble here, but not so much as to aggravate you too much, I sincerely hope. ; >)

  215. Hi all….M&H I was having withdrawals! And truer words were never spoken. You again are spot on with your rant.

    To all who have family and friends serving in the military, may you be blessed. It’s a hard row to hoe. My partner is STILL fighting for VA benefits for PTSD. It’s been over 4 years. But I have friends who have been fighting for over 30.

    I get fussy behind the behemoth gas guzzlers with tons of I LOVE MY SOLDIER, yellow ribbons, and F&&*) Iraq stickers. Shut up and fight if you love it so much. Well, can’t say that anymore. Two of my young co-workers just signed on the dotted line. One’s already in basic. The other leaves in 3 weeks. I’m just heartbroken. In my heart in know that it’s possible neither will return home.

    Goddess help us all if Obama doesn’t immediately do a couple of things: Force the VA to make decisions in a timely manner and with a heart of compassion toward those who valiantly serve. And get our soldiers home…now. They want us out. Let’s get out…now. We have too many soldiers out there who need VA help, disability benefits, and therapy who aren’t getting it. The system re-victimizes them so badly that many give up the fight.

    Thanks for your wise words. Yes, you reach out and touch folks every time you write.

  216. Dear Elsie
    for me it’s all girlz and boyz since I am VERY proud (and that is one of the few things I am really proud of) that I, up to now, managed NOT to grow up (grown ups are soooo boring) and my 4 kids (oldest 23 and youngest is 10) kept me “young”, inquesitive (?) and alltoghter “non-adult” enough to have tons of fun with them.

    I recommend to all, keep learning every day, make crazy things and give a f*** what your neighbours or the next one might think of you.

    As an addition to the German saying above I would like to add something I learned when I was 16 and always, from time to time, try to remember. And don’t think I hadn’t have to make my share of compromises, but it is still VERY important to remeber once ion a while:

    “You needn’t run if you want to stay,
    you needn’t do what other people say,
    just find your place at the sun
    and do what you like,
    and you will like what you have done!”

    So, Elsie and the rest, keep smileing, enjoy live where ever you can and f*** the rest!

    Or, better not, try to improve it, just don’t let live get you down!

    Werner

  217. Another way to support the troops is to treat our petroleum products like they are gold. Good American men and women gave their life to keep our oil safe for us underneath their sand. Let’s respect the troop’s sacrifices…..treat oil like the vital commodity it is…like not wasting it.

    Happy new year to all, especially our two hostesses whom I don’t get to read often enough.

  218. Sophie forgive me I miss read one of your posts and thought I had read that your Professor instead of a Professor.

    “The notion that ‘thinkers’ are irrelevant or somehow ‘quaintly out of touch’ is part and parcel of the dumbing down of the American public we have been subjected to by the right wing for how many years now? ”

    I do not think that “thinkers” are irrelevant. Never have I do however find that many great minds disagree on the same topics all the time. I find this even with the “experts” in any given field.

    I have no problem with researching our constitution or any historical document. I think that is wonderful. I have met people and am related to a person who is a genius by IQ standards. Photographic memory and all. What I have found many times even with this person. They have book learning but no practical common sense.

    I am sorry if you were offended. I do find it odd that you have singled me out on this topic. I have to think for some reason I get under your skin.

    If I am part of the dumbing down of America then so be it. I have to say that I feel you are being condescending and really I just don’t have the time or energy to deal with you.

    Everyone else here you are wonderful and thank you for making me feel included and like I am learning from you.

    I will check back in a few days. I have end of month paperwork for our local food bank to get out and meetings for this charity so will be away for a few days.

    Leaving a few pies and some tea and coffee.

  219. Quoting Tim at 3:24 PM

    “Another way to support the troops is to treat our petroleum products like they are gold. Good American men and women gave their life to keep our oil safe for us underneath their sand. Let’s respect the troop’s sacrifices…..treat oil like the vital commodity it is…like not wasting it.”

    Good Point. So with that, lets have an entertaining and informative look back a century or so:

    Robert Newman’s History of Oil
    Robert’s stand-up act examines the history of the last 100 years or so but putting oil center-stage.
    Google Video ~ 45m23s

    Follow along, some Research Links

    Δ

  220. Your blog and the responses it provokes give me true joy. I was one of the more than 450,000 people in NYC who marched in 2003, before we ever entered Iraq. We met a woman at that protest who was 83 years old and came to NYC by bus ~~ just to participate in that march!! Incredible. It was extremely disheartening, though, to have all those people all across America ~~ simply ignored and dismissed and spoken to as children.

    I, for one, hope you gals will continue to post ALL your rants. Because your rants are my rants, too. Keep warning everyone about Sarah Palin, too. She’s nothing more than a publicity-hound. Watch how often her name and face will keep popping in the media.

    Thanks for coming back. You were sorely missed.

    Oh, and I am just starting a cooking blog if anyone is interested. It’s brand new so not too much there as yet. Keep looking, though. And I’d love some comments, too!

    it’s here: http://heyclaire.wordpress.com/

  221. I’m glad to see so much commentary on Combat Related PTSD.

    My boyfriend just started treatment this Monday. Yes, gay boys go to war too. He’s a Marine that served in Desert Storm. He saw things, he did things that he can’t speak about. He didn’t realize he had PTSD until I told him what he was going through. My own experience with PTSD (sexually molested by a cousin for almost 2 years when I was in high school) gave me the insight to what was going on with him. It took almost a year to convince him that time with a counselor or a support group, someone he could tell all these things to without fear, would be the only way to begin to get this demon of his back.

    In his case, the VA seems to be on the ball. He’s a truck driver on 24 hour call except for days off. The VA is sending a counselor here from ABQ, a six hour drive, each week on his days off, staying overnight for back to back sessions. For this I’m impressed and thankful. It’s not easy to get help from the VA…. it takes a lot of phone calls, hoping you’ll eventually get to the right person. And if you’re not the Vet himself, but a family memeber (or in my case the boyfriend) it’s even more difficult to get any information on support services.

    Many times the Vet himself is so overwhelmed with the ‘crazy’ thoughts that they can’t seek help on their own. You have to make the calls and do the research for them.

    I knew quite a bit about PTSD from the inside looking out. But I’ve lots to learn about it from the other side. I did find one very good source for information about PTSD, from both sides, for generalized PTSD, disaster volunteers, and combat-related PTSD on this web site:

    https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,840/

    It’s called the Wounded Warrior Project. Many of these guys joined the military during peace time, only to see things and do things that now haunt them. WE OWE THEM.

    They can’t tell us what they are feeling, what they are remembering. They’re afraid of us looking back at them, knowing what they’ve seen and done. So they carry it and bury it, deep inside. Problem is that until you unload that kind of burden, it will continue to haunt you.

    I’ve told my Vet that even if our relationship doesn’t survive (and it will) I’ll never let him face his PTSD alone, never. He lost his innocence honorably addressing the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq. His biggest concern: that the boys serving in Iraq now have it much worse than he did… not concerned for himself, but those now serving. That’s a Marine, for life.

    While I don’t agree with the present illegal war in Iraq or the Administration that created this mess, my heart bleeds for the soldiers doing what they swore they’d do; follow their orders to the best of their ability. And each and every one of them deserve the same respect and support that I strive to give my boyfriend.

    Lastly, about don’t ask, don’t tell. What bullshit.

    Keith

  222. That remark about rarely “bad guys” being found on the field of battle really touched me. Very wise you are. War is indeed about money and power for the few. War is fought for old men with the blood of the young. Bush may be against abortion (as am I) but how many of god’s children have died as a result of his war? They are just a little older but children none the less. I wonder how he sleeps at night.

  223. Thanks for the post. It’s good to have you back. I agree with your resolution to stay involved and watch our government. I too voted for Obama and agree that I’m watching to see that he stays focused and pointed in the direction that he promised to go.

    As for gifts for those who don’t need anything. We deal with that with my in-laws. This year we are paying for a consultant to come into their home and hook up all their electronic gizmos (dvd, stereo, tivo, etc) so that they all work together the way they’re supposed to. Must have been a good idea because they’re both excited to have it done!

    Have a great day and thanks again!

  224. Keith:

    As I type this I am taking a break from sewing patches, etc, on to the dress uniform of a young man in the National Guard. He and his “mate” are dear friends of my children and thus my friends too.

    I think the don’t ask don’t tell is the most assinin thing I have ever heard of. If you are able to do a job, what difference does your sexual preference make.

    I have seen this young man struggle through his personal awareness and it was not an easy thing for him. I asked him the other day if he had come to terms with this, and he said yes. That made me so happy that he is beyond the agony others cause because of his orientation.

    forgive the spelling, my fingers are poked and they hurt a bit.

  225. [...] Getting the Bad Guys Margaret,  I got a lot of crap.  How about you?    If it’s the thought that counts then I want to know what [...] [...]

  226. Dear Helen,

    As far as I’m concerned, your writings *have* had a positive impact. They make me feel better. You make me laugh and make me think.

    Thank you!

  227. Welcome back Helen. Boy, you sure do know how to nail it. Huddled up in my den here in Alaska–hiding from aerial hunters and trying to stay warm in -40 degree wind chills.

  228. I had to laugh about the “crap.” The older I get, the more of that I get.

    This year, I’m not so gainfully employed (I’m going back to school, yes even at my age) so I made it clear to family, extended family and friends that I did not want gifts and that I was only buying (small) gifts for my siblings’ kids. As if they need ANYTHING.

    Most people acquiesced, except my siblings and their spouses. And bless their hearts, they didn’t buy me crap — they bought me a Le Creuset porcelain-enameled dutch oven in my beloved RED, which I love but which is NOT cheap.

    I called them on it, but my baby brother said: “We heard what you had to say, we took it to heart and then decided we just had to disagree.”

    Now I was making money and buying them things when they were still kids, so I’ve decided to gracefully accept — I guess it’s my turn.

    And talk about a pan that produces a great pot roast! And great chili. And great soup ….

    However, I agree about getting candles and bath lotions and exotic teas that, frankly, I rarely use and often regift.

    If you feel the need, give me a good black breakfast tea or a good olive oil or a good balsamic vinegar. Or a bittersweet chocolate bar Those I’ll use — probably to feed you when you’re a guest.

    But bag the candles and the bath oils. I just don’t roll that way.

    Actually, I found my now-deceased mom’s favorite gift was a Starbucks gift card. As a retiree, she couldn’t really afford regular starbucks runs, but I put a $50 card in her stocking one year and she loved it — both for herself and to treat her pals. (yes, I know 50 bucks doesn’t go far at starbucks but the nearest one was an hour away — they didn’t go that often!)

    She didn’t need more “stuff” but she loved her mochas.

  229. Spemt morning reading all y our comments about PTSD. Since I have been reading a wonderful book about the BRAIN, I was sure I had b een reading about that. After digging through the book, I foun d references to the subject but not the references to it.
    However, what I have read that makes a lot of sense.
    In war, the brain is assaulted by gunfire, bombs exploding, etc all of which is devasting to the brain, cauusing PTSD. The new way of treating the brain could be of tremendou8s help to these suffering from th is.

    the name of the book is :The Brain that Changes Itself” by
    Dr. Norman Dodge.

  230. Oops. my typing . The Drs name is Doidge. He is in CAnada .
    One of the other Drs is Dr. Edward Taub. He has cca ccccclini in Birmingham Ala at the University. Google their names after you8 read the book. It is available at BArnes and Nobel, $16.00.
    Just from what I have learned from reading the book,and pit to use some oof the information, I have seen improvement in the use of my right hand.

  231. Slightly OT – but the one statement uttered by Cindy McCain during the campaign that made me see “red” was when she commented that only draftees get PTSD, not officers. My hubby just laughed at the stupid bitch but I personally to bitch slap her. IMO John McCain is a walking talking classic case of untreated PTSD.

    Talea – welcome back! :) I think your mom and I would have been buddies – my one indulgence that I’ve kept during these hard economic times – my venti mocha from starbucks. once a week without fail. It’s my “Thank God it’s Friday” morning celebration!

    Keith & Troutay – one of the greatest disservices to our country is don’t ask don’t tell. The loss of highly qualified linguists fluent in Farsi at a time when our country desperately needed their skills – a loss based only on their sexual orientation – is perhaps one of the biggest blunders of this ill-gotten war. I am disgusted with Prop 8 and I am furious about FL’s passage of Amendment 2. The legal discrimination of anyone in this country makes a travesty of the whole notion of democracy and equality. November 4 was a day of mixed emotions – joy for the election of Obama and despair over the small mindedness that remains ingrained in our national psyche. We have a lot of work to do still – and yes the economy is in shambles. But IMO we must attend to the foundation of this country – to reinstating the very principles upon which this country was founded – and making sure that the Law of the Land upholds and hold sacred those principles of equality.

  232. Grandma Katie – anyone near you who can set you up with a Wii? The Brain Trauma units at the VA in Tampa have those installed there for therapy. . . and it seems to be remarkable at refiring those eye-hand coordination synapses.

  233. troutay- you out there? I’m afriad I’m about to get on a soapbox for real and I might need someone to cart me off to a doc when I fall off.

    This place of Margaret and Helen’s has been a place of sanctuary, solace , and learning for me these past few months.
    I just about stroked out when Mr McCain added our sorry gov to the ticket. I was lucky enough to find this blog (actually my lil sister pointed me here as I think she was worn out from my ravings… ) and I wrote bazillions of postcards as an Alaskan voting for Obama to undecided voters all over Outside.
    I have come to enjoy so many of the folks who post regulalrly here as well as laughing and crying my way through Helen’s brilliant posts.
    Troutay’s deep kind heart, Elsie’s gracious intelligent ethics, Greytdog’s boundless fount of information and clear thinking, Charles’ acerbic wit, JuneauJoe and Werner’s intelligent hilarity, freD’s superior wordsmith capabilities, Jean’s ability to make a story tell truth, Grandma Katie’s strength, charming ultra smart Skyewriter and feisty loving dyricci, our much beloved magician Whirled Peas… Political Amazon, Mirror Man, Ann ,Maven… Too many to count. Too many to name .
    All that being said…
    ———————————–
    sophie said-
    “Are we as a culture so detached from the notion of developing an ethical code to guide us in real life issues that i am the outlier here? If so, that is an enormous loss for this Country. And, perhaps, an irreparable one”

    sophie -stuff a sock in it. Insulting Proud- who has a well established ethical stance- and by extension the rest of the folks who think here is a non-starter.
    —————–
    “The notion that ‘thinkers’ are irrelevant or somehow ‘quaintly out of touch’ is part and parcel of the dumbing down of the American public we have been subjected to by the right wing for how many years now?”

    sophie -stuff a sock in it.
    You have established no credentials here except that you can read and use quotes from someone with no name.
    Your ideas have logical validity and your plan to assist soldiers who have made the difficult choice to resist the war is laudable.
    However, elevating your ideas/thoughts above all around you is a juvenile mistake. I know. I spent 15 years charging around laying waste to other decent folks…
    Hon, it’ll get lonely if you get quiet round nightfall. It’s only your own heartbeat you’ll hear…
    Announcing you are a thinker and a well disciplined and well rounded one at that AND giving off attitude that any rebuff or question about your stance is anti-intellectualism doesn’t cut it here. Too many well read, well educated, well seasoned THINKERS here to let you slide on that …
    Come visit and have some pie but get off your high horse. I’ve got all kinds of busted bits and pieces to show for my foray into that lifestyle. It’s more comfortable here . Southern folks tend to hang on the porch and have iced tea and pie. We Northerly folks tend to head for the parlour where the hot tea is set out…

  234. Dear Helen, Margaret and Everyone,

    I spent three hours in the dentist’s chair today. He is a sweetheart and absolutely painless. All I have to do is show up and open my mouth. I suppose that as an old broad, I should be glad that I still have some teeth for him to work on. But SHEESH! THREE HOURS and $$$$$$!

    Thank you, those of you, my new friends, for your kind words about my brother, R.G. I am grateful for your caring thoughts. There have been many comments here today about PTSD. Haven’t we learned a DAMN thing in this country in 60 plus years? Here is more of the story. Please bear with me. I’ll get to my point – eventually.

    I began piano lessons at a pretty early age. It wasn’t too hard to get me to practice, because I loved the music and it was fun playing.

    As a result, I advanced to the head of my teacher’s roster of pupils and the foot of her recital program. Periodically, she held a recital for all the parents, families and friends to come hear how accomplished we students had become. At my first recital there were several of my little friends ahead of me on the program. One of them messed up badly and fled the stage in tears. I was horrified! I had my first in a long line of experiences with terminal stage fright.

    Somehow I managed to get through my little piece without incident. But I vowed from then on to know my piece so well that nothing could rattle me. That meant diligent practice!

    I think my parents probably thought my dedication to the piano was because I loved music, which of course, I did and still do. But my PRIMARY purpose was to prepare for the next recital coming up. I did enjoy the applause and the obvious pride and approval of my family and friends but that was far from the principal motivation. Backstage before each performance I suffered the agonies of the damned with freezing fingers.

    Over the years I was shoved onto a stage on a regular basis. My parents and my teachers had me convinced that I should be a concert pianist.

    When I was about fourteen during WWII, a Ladies’ group organized a variety show of local talent to entertain the soldier patients at the HUGE Fitzsimmon’s General Army Hospital in Denver. We were an assortment of singers, dancers and such. For a change, because I was the youngest, I was first on the program. I always took my music with me for a performance to bone up to the very last minute and as a sort of security blanket to ward off the inevitable paralyzing stage fright.

    I walked out onto the stage to a chorus of rowdy applause and whistles. This was no polite ladies’ club, mens’ business service or community production organization! I sat down at the piano and as the racket continued I became completely unnerved. I couldn’t find Middle C let alone the first notes of my piece! I muttered something about forgetting my music and fled backstage to get it. I came back to an even more uproarious audience. I sat down with the hubbub still going on. By then I was mad at them for being so rude!

    As always, once I started to play, everything was forgotten and it was just me the piano and the music. My piece was ‘Claire de Lune’ by Debussy. Soon the auditorium was very, very quiet, perhaps moved by the mood and beauty of the music. As I gathered up my music, took my bow and left the stage, the applause was thunderous but be damned, I would not play an encore for that disorderly bunch!

    After the show we visited the wards. Of course, everyone remembered the little girl who forgot her music but played well when she did have it.

    Here were the spoils of war – young men in wheel chairs, the amputees, the blinded, the broken bodies and shattered spirits. Each one of them could have been my brother, R.G. He was at that time fighting in North Africa.

    On the sixty-five mile ride home I thought about the rah-rah hype in the movies and the glories of war being generated all the time around us. I remembered and finally understood my parents’ stoic respectful silence at Memorial Day and Fourth of July parades as columns of soldiers marched by to the oompah-pah martial music of the high school band. Before, I had thought the parades were so exciting!!! No more. I no longer thought that there was anything thrilling about war. Sometimes necessary I suppose but certainly nothing to take lightly. My dad had been in the army in World War I. My mother’s first sweetheart had been killed in that war. My parents knew what war was really about.

    R.G. was fighting in Sicily when he was wounded in the leg by shrapnel. He was sent back to a field hospital for three weeks. There he met an Italian girl. He wrote, asking my mother to send him his high school Latin book, hoping to be able to communicate better with his girlfriend. Mom sent it. Italian, of course, is a Romance language.

    He wrote as often as he could. Naturally, he couldn’t write about where he was or any details of the war. His letters were sent to us on ‘V mail’, rather crude photographs of the letter from, I presume, microfilm. The ‘V mails’ were about 3 inches by 4 inches and stamped by a censor, occasionally some sentences blacked out.

    We sent letters and packages to his APO address in New York. I remember helping make up and wrapping Christmas packages in August or September with the hope they would get to him in time. He was overseas for well over three years.

    Once he wrote to me personally in response to one of my letters. He described how pitiful the children were where he was. He told me, “Every night in your prayers, thank God that you live in America.”

    I did and I do.

    Aloha!

    Jean

  235. Oh Jean-
    Those packages!
    My dad spent 6 years -during and after WWII- as a submariner in the Pacific. He said those wartime packages from his mother and sisters were heaven.
    No matter how many times he told them he was given chocolate bars, they always saved their chocolate ( was it rationed like so many other things?) and sent it to him and his brothers who were in Europe.

    I think I’ll skip right on by what dad has had to say about the “sacrifices” far too many folks have made for our service men and women this time around.

    I’m sorry you lost your beloved brother… I lost a special cousin in Viet Nam-the closest I ever had to having a brother. His loss is still real and painful after 40 years…

  236. I have only just been introduced to your blog, and I wish you were my grandmother already. Bless you for putting these thoughts out there. (Although, if you kiss and make up with Bush, I hope rinse with antibacterial mouthwash.)

    Happy New Year.

  237. Hi Greytdog,

    I’m showing my Technology Challenged ignorance. What does ‘IMO’ mean?

    Aloha!

    Jean

  238. Dear Margaret &* Helen
    I live just south of the largest United States Marine Corps land bombing ground in our country. Today like many days ,our house shook and the explosions shattered the silence of our Mojave Desert. I send out prayers to all people affected by war, whether it be in Iraq, Israel, Africa or the Gaza Strip. We teach in the schools where the children’s Mothers, fathers, Aunts, Uncles, Etc, have been to Iraq multiple times, many of them coming home missing parts of their bodies, parts of their souls, or both.
    I applaud you for being so open and truthful about the truth of War. With all the amazing minds on our planet, it is beyond me why we cannot put all of our monies and energies into creating Peace.
    We need more folks like you writing openly and honestly about War and our government.
    I Thank You
    Namaste,
    MB
    PS next year register for what you really want at target or another reasonably priced store, so you might receive a few gifts you can actually use and like!

  239. Hi Alaska Pi,

    Yes, chocolate was rationed. So were many, many other things like sugar, butter and meat. (God! Spam wasn’t. We lived on Spam often. To this day I can’t look Spam in the face although it’s a BIG favorite out here. They make musabi with Spam in the middle. UGH!)

    There were ration stamps and you could not buy those items without the proper stamp. My mother swapped some meat stamps with friends for sugar stamps to make her traditional jellies and jams. So we ate Spam. YUCK!

    Gasoline was rationed for sure. I almost got into a LOT OF TROUBLE in high school because I went on a date with two other couples to an amusement park in Denver. Without permission. None of us had parental permission to leave the city limits – ever!

    When it was time to come home, my date only had a ration stamp for a ‘truck’ not a ‘car’. We drove all over Denver and almost ran out of gas before he found a sort of black market gas station that would take the ‘truck stamp’ – for a price.

    Never did that again!!!

    Aloha!

    Jean

  240. Sally, that way hysterical!

    “The Bushes will be around for a long time – crap takes longer to dissolve when it wraps itself in a false cloak of Christian goodness.”

    Ha!Ha!Ha!

    That is a good one…..

  241. Hmm. Pi?
    I didn’t see any high horse, I just read a lot of common sense.

    That is what I like about this place. Common sense.
    Have to go, must stop to drop off uniform at cleaners on my way to work.

  242. Good Morning all! I read Pi’s response to Sophie and that compelled me to wander back through the comments with intent to see what I’d missed. . . and then the proverbial “something shiny” distracted me. . . and my thoughts wisped away while my brain cogitated on something else. Sigh. So a couple of things:
    First of all – Jean, IMO stands for In My Opinion (a preface so that folks know you’re not stating facts)
    Second: As I perused through the comments, I realized that many of the remarks concerning the troops were tacitly prefaced by the idea that the folks who joined the Armed Forces were doing so from a deep sense of patriotism. Hmmm. I don’t think so. Please remember we no longer have a draft – we have an all volunteer armed forces. From all accounts I’ve read over the years and the folks I know who are in service now, the primary motivating force for joining the armed forces was economic, not patriotism. Yes there was an uptick among some folks after 9/11 citing a desire to fight for this country (Pat Tillman being the most notable) – but since then, the economics of volunteering has really been the focus. Sign up bonus, the college carrot, etc are very powerful incentives to folks who otherwise would not be able to afford college or learn a trade. And of course, as this war has dragged on, and the recruiting quotas began to lag, the armed forces began dismantling their own enlistment requirements – so now we have violent crime offenders who are joining and we’re actually giving them a gun and letting them loose? Oy! With the recent crumbling of Wall Street and the decimation of Main Street, the armed forces are again seeing a larger turnout for enlistment as folks seek to stave off financial ruin and uncertainty. And it is these reasons, I think, that more and more we will have soldiers who return to their TDYs (tour of duty year) because they do bond with their units – the unit becomes their family, their touchstone – and they fight to protect each other – not their country. I am personally glad that these folks do indeed guard each other’s back – I remember a scene from a movie I saw as a child (and no I can’t recall the title, just this particular scene) – one soldier looked at his fellows and declared “there aren’t too many folks I trust. But you. Each and everyone of you – I’d die for. But only for you”
    That struck me and even as a child, I understood the sentiment – back to back, shoulder to shoulder. That’s not patriotism – that’s family. I would rather honor that sentiment than to pretend that each soldier is doing a patriotic “duty”.Vietnam Vets don’t weep at the wall because of patriotism – they weep for fallen friends, they weep for their family.

  243. But this is OUR patriotic duty – to ensure our soldiers are sent into battle with ALL the equipment and protection needed, that their leaders have a clear and concise goal and strategy, that their leaders do not LIE to them or to us, that we provide the support to the families left behind during TDY, that we provide the very best medical care both during and after that TDY, and that we honor their service by ensuring our government understands the consequences of killing our children for a LIE.

  244. And a more lighthearted note:

    Ben & Jerry’s has an inauguration-inspired flavor: “Yes Pecan.”

  245. Greydog:

    good post. I agree.

  246. Here is a little something for WhirledPeas:

    http://ckuik.com/Edwin_Starr

  247. Greytdog, early on, I figured out the “Great Dog” moniker you used, as I am a Corgi owner, too. However, unlike your pack, I have just my one little female Corgi, and with her and the frequent visits from my daughter’s German Shepherd, that’s plenty for us, for the moment. But, secretly, I’d really like to have a pack with some additional male Corgis, too, in memory of my funny little male Corgi who died last year.

    I appreciate everything you offer Helen’s visitors here. I read all the thoughtful, well-written commentary from you and try to consider all of it thoughtfully. Among all the things you’ve said recently, I keep going back to your need for a laugh a couple of days ago because you were somehow involved in the euthanizing of six dogs.

    Without being too nosy, could you tell a little more about how you came to be involved in the euthanizing of all those dogs? Do you work for, or volunteer with, an animal shelter?

  248. Greytdog: Thank you for your comments. I couldn’t agree more. And what you said about the Wii was very interesting as my Marine (just by coincidence I’m sure) got one for Christmas.

    Grandma Katie: The book you mentioned sounds very interesting indeed. I’ll be looking that up on Amazon in a bit and most likely will order a copy for myself.

    As I said, I basically diagnosed my Marine’s PTSD, based only on my own experience suffering from similar. He withdrew from me, and everyone other than his job, every year at the same time…. late January and most of February. A dear friend of mine suggested that something significant must have happened to him within that time frame. Quickly I hit the computer for research and found that the initial invasion of Iraq during Desert Storm was at that time.

    Here’s my point. So many of us get so caught up in our own insular lives, just getting through another day hoping we’ve made a dent in what we needed/hoped to accomplish, that we miss signals that others are sending out, seeking help. Life’s a busy complicated task but we have to make time to listen to what goes on around us for a bit. There are so many cries for help, many disguised as withdrawal, anger and indifference. Our compassion and concern for one another, even strangers in line at the grocery can make that one difference in someone’s life. Suddenly, I wonder what it would be like to find myself in line with Ann Coulter….. maybe I wouldn’t be such a compassionate soul! Just something that struck me!

    I heard this quote on television yesterday morning and scrambled to write it down. I hope I got it correct.

    “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” MLK, Jr. Thats for You Helen!

    Keith

  249. troutay said-
    “Hmm. Pi?
    I didn’t see any high horse, I just read a lot of common sense.”

    Good- I was hoping so. I realize I’ve been talking in personal shorthand about high horses and soapboxes here. It works ok in the ultra practical everyday work world I live in but falls short in here.

    I was the science kid- mathematical beauty stunned and still stuns me. I get so over excited when I read Bohr’s leap of understanding regarding basic atomic structure that I can’t sit still. My lab partners through school loved and hated me because I could”see” what the emerging pattern was going to be and oft times why, but always got so excited I would get up and run around- sometimes right out of the lab.

    I took a lot of classical philosophy courses to try to balance out that side of me but didn’t begin to “get it” til I got to make 2 trips into Glacier Bay 25 years ago. I have a tough time with perspective- where am I? type. Am I off in the ozone and thinking I’m firmly grounded…?
    The splendor of all those tidewater glaciers was almost overwhelming… the views afforded there-vast rivers of ice seen from a distance, all the teaming life near the intersect of ice and salt water at the face , holding a chunk of ages old well travelled ice in my hand and wondering- became a meaningful metaphor for me regarding “god’s eye view”, everyday life in the fray, and the eye of the scientist. Somehow I had gotten on-a-high-horse- confusing the eye of the scientist with “god’s eye view”- in my own life. I still lose track of where my feet are and like to come here to stamp around a bit in the dust and try to figure it all out again…
    —————————————

    Greytdog has made one of those wonderful sweeps and rounded out the whole by plopping the undealt-with out in the open to kick around and fit into the picture.
    I don’t know about other rural areas but here so many of our “voluntary” service men and women from subsistence villages volunteer because there are so few ways to make the dollars that are needed for items one cannot make, hunt, build oneself…and you get training in things to help your neighbors in times of crisis ( National Guard esp)

  250. and on a random note… back to bacon. Apparently it has magical powers, rivalling the fountain of youth. :)

    114 year old woman attributes longevity in part to bacon.

  251. Gandma Katie
    for the Nintendo Wii thingy (they still go for $210.00) best thing would be to ask any Grandkids you might have to bring theirs over for a visit to test….. or if you have good conncetionss in the neighbourhood ask someon with Kids if they can let you try before investing that kinda a money!
    But I agree, IF you like it AND IF you can handle it you would certainly improve, just finding something for the Wii that fits your interesst and age is not easy and NEVER buy a game without checking internet reviews about it, a lot of crappy stuff for the Wii out there and it hurts to waste $30 -50 for something you don’t like or need.

    Good luck

    Werner

  252. sorry read $270.00 for Wii

  253. Wow, I wasn’t going to post but I am just struck by the comments (and the post!) that I just have to say thank you to those of you who left such great responses. I started visiting this sight when Andrew Sullivan linked it. I can’t even tell you how much this blog did for my soul. I was surrounded by Sarah Palin lovers at work & die hard republicans. This site (along with Mudflats, Andrew Sullivan, HuffPo) were just so refreshing.

    For the above poster who said that she is afraid of soldiers/vets – What? You have got to be kidding. First of all, the scary ones you might have met on the street are mentally scarred & probably most of them have PTSS that has never been treated. Even if they are treated now, after many many years, they will probably never be able to “fit” in society.

    It is a crime that we let these men/women go to war & NOT give them therapy when they get home. I believe that all returning soldiers should get mandatory (yes, mandatory because let’s face it some people don’t want to admit they need it or that they have a problem) therapy. Yes, it would cost us some money but by God they deserve it. If we can afford $475,000 china for the White House that Laura Bush just picked out then we can certainly afford it. Note: I know that the historical society actually paid for this china & we as taxpayers didn’t; however, where in the world are our priorities?

    The other comment I want to make is that many of these soldiers joined the services because it helped them pay for their college. It wasn’t because they wanted to kill people! They wanted a college education to better themselves. Off my soapbox now!

  254. But really, Helen — those yellow ribbons are MAGNETS, They aren’t even stickers. Nobody wants to ruin their precious cars. I like to take them off in parking lots and just throw them on the ground next to the car, and if they don’t notice it is gone and they drive away without it, oh well!

  255. Jizzle
    good point

    “Rip ‘em off without ripping them off.”

    Excellent concept and if your to dumb/busy to notice, well just shows the point of your involvement.

    Lovin’ it, best idea since a while!

    And as for supporting your troops (Even if I disagree, see above) the best idea is get ‘em home before they get ‘em killed and treat oil as a treasur

    HYBRID cars made it to the US, you just gotta look!

    Werner

  256. And a happy New Year to you, too!

    Nice to see y’all back and putting it all out there.

    You’re right. Supporting the troops is more than stickers and flags. All of the men and women fighting on either side are someone’s son, daughter, husband, wife, sister, brother… what have you. I think we need to remember that more often.

    Yea, some of them are bad people… but many of them are not. They’re just like us in all the ways that really count.

    And as for being active – you’re dead on there, too. I know this election made me realize how passive I’ve been in the past. That needs to change. For all of us. We all need to get out their and get our voices heard.

    If we don’t… no one will.

  257. Hi Silver Snow Dragon

    As for:
    “And as for being active – “you’re dead on” there, too.”

    I love the pun, NOT laughing at you, but we all could have a good old laugh at the “Queen’s English” here WITH you, or is it only my German mind that see the pun underneath the good intention?

    LOL with you

    Werner

  258. Good moning to you all!
    Thanks to allthe suggestions about getting a Wii. now if I just knew what Wii was!!
    I have wireless here. Play ay n umber of games, and d o a lot of typing which helps the right hand a lot. I have come a long was in a year. ONly problem is that I don’t think it is fast enough. The only item of funrniture I have left is an office chair, computer desk and the computer1

    Interesting talking about things being rationed. In odd moments, am writing memories of growing u p during the depression and WWll
    WE really did recycling then. From tooth paste tubes to cereal boxes etc.
    My dad had customers from a nearby Army base and became friends with some of them. One was in Italy. We regularly sent packages to unck\cles and friends. This y oug man wrote and asked if we would please send some popcorn, the unpopped (his words)kind..When he received it , he wrote how m uch he and his buddies enjoyed it. They popped it in ther helments over a fire!

    Now for a Spam story.
    The butcher at our neighbor hood grocery saved the 5 pound tins for my mother. Th tins were just the right measurements and sturdy enough
    for shipping. Back during the waar Spam was sold in slices.

    One of my parents b rothers received a package.=and was horrified toopen it to see a Spam can. He almost didn’t open it all the way to see what was in it.

    Thanks to all. of you and especially Margaret and Helen. REading this every morning has been really
    exciting and keeps my brain occupied.

  259. Jean,

    Internet Slang List.

    Δ

  260. Hi Grandma Katie
    A Wii is a gaming Console, which has this controler (remote kinda thingy) that you wave around to make the thing work:

    Form Wikipedia:
    A distinguishing feature of the console is its wireless controller, the Wii Remote, which can be used as a handheld pointing device and detect movement in three dimensions.
    More details:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii

    What they mean is that it is a “hard job” getting the remote to do what you want it to, since you keep waving the thing around to pretend to use it as a tennis racket, a golf club, etc (also less wild movements) There os a game that a lot of people have (Wii Sports) that is what I think Greytdog (please elaborate on this yourself Greytdog) meant when she wrote that it might help improve you Hand to eye coordination, but since they don’t come cheap I really recommend through testing before investing.

    A rather cheap and fun way if you have a PC is this site:

    http://www.freearcade.com/arcadegames1.html

    they have all the old arcade style games for free for the PC (My ten year old loves them) on the web, just check the different categories on the left for what kind of stuff you like and get going.

    Some annoying adds but it is for free, so let’s just click them away and get playing! :-)

    Werner

  261. Grandma Katie
    since a picture says more than a thousand words, here a youtube video link to a Nintendo ADD for Wii

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=73yDRm8KaWY

    just keep in mind, this is an add and shows things as the “should” be, so expect them to be more diffucult, but for that, not less fun…..

    Werner

  262. Good morning to you too, Grandma Katie,

    May I make another suggestion that is much, much less expensive than a Wii. A few years ago one of my young grandson gave me a GameBoy Advance for a game known as ‘Tetris’. I know for sure that he didn’t have $$$$$ for anything like the Wii.

    It is small, portable and runs on two AA batteries. You can take it anywhere, even in your purse. If you can maneuver the computer keyboard, which you do very well, you can certainly play ‘Tetris’. The silly thing is addictive!!!!!

    Maybe you could call around and see if you can track one down. WalMart?

    Aloha!

    Jean

  263. Hi Greytdog and Whirled Peas,

    Thanks for the ‘IMO’ explanation. I’ll be using that!

    And the Computer Wizard strikes again! Thank you! I’ll get computer literate yet.

    Aloha!

    Jean

  264. Hi Grandma Katie and Jean
    disadvanteg of the Game Boy Advance is the very small screen which is also a hassle to read in sunlight, but Tetris is an excellent Idea and you can find it on the web site I send you before for free
    lemme look………
    uups not there lemme look somewhere else
    meanwhile try this one:

    http://ww7.freearcade.com/Javanoid.jav/Javanoid.html

    shot/start ball with the space bar and move the playing coursor with the rioght / left arrow button, a bit fast, but with some training

    looking for tetris:
    here you go
    http://www.freetetris.org/

    move shapes roght lieft with arrows
    up arrow will turn shape
    down arrow will drop shape in place
    this is excellent training and tons of fun try it!!

    Werner

  265. forgot to spell check, see I am no better than anybody else here! LOL

  266. Greytdog∆, great post. Keith, here’s another quote:
    “Bad things happen when good people remain silent” but I forget the author.

    I did get very involved because of our public school system here in Hawaii. Our private and VERY expensive schools are excellent – Punahou and Iolani being the largest and best. My kids went to public high schools, for I believe it is the individual that makes the difference and they become more socially adept with friends of varying economic backgrounds. They are doing okay in college and beyond, but their actual education was below the standards I had when I was young, and Bush’s “No Child Left Behind” forced our schools to teach to the middle for most classes, making it hard for teachers to reach all of their students, boring for the bright ones, and difficult for those with learning problems.

    I raised the red flag even though everyone told me it wouldn’t make a difference. It started with a growing group of pissed off parents and a few teachers, most of them silent but encouraging through emails and giving testimony, until much to all our surprise, we had change at our school. We were branded as “bad” but we got change, and perhaps from this small victory, at least one of our schools has a chance to improve to the level of quality – with new leadership. Almost sounds like the campaign and hope of our president elect Obama!

    It is amazing to me how many people don’t want change. They grumble, they cuss, but they don’t do anything about it. It’s easier to just blame someone than figure out what would be better, and then doing it.

    I believe we had 8 years of grumbling, cussing, and giving up because no matter how we felt, we weren’t getting anywhere. Now, we have at least 4 years of someone willing to listen (Obama has a website that encourages input), someone willing to use brains, experience and wisdom from friend and foe, someone with the big picture and the majority of the people in his heart and purpose.

    Troutay, your “we shall overcome” has been the chant in my head. After 8 years of feeling helpless, it feels so good to hope.

    I feel sorry for the others that voted Republican and lost, I know how that felt as the loser of the previous 2 elections. So, they are still spouting how Bush kept us safe after 9-11, Obama is really a Muslin, the anti-Christ, will cause the moral decay of our country, etc.

    All I want to say to them is give Obama a chance. The religious right is now “praying for the President”. Thank you. Please mean it, and get on the train.

    Jean, thanks for your beautiful tales, but I am sorry you hate Spam. I love it, and spam musubis (packed rectangles of white rice with teriyaki cooked slice of spam on top wrapped with a sheet of nori) are one of my favorite take-a-long foods. Spam cooked with kim chee, or stir fried with choi sum eaten with white rice, yum. I think Hawaii is the Spam Capitol of the USA.

    At least we have lots of other good food besides spam, and if our paths ever cross, and you get to sit down to eat with me, I’ll keep the spam off the table.

  267. Hi Helen, Margaret and everybody,

    A little change of pace from the serious problems of today.

    I remembered a couple of ancient history tid-bits that only old fossils like me could know from personal experience.

    During WWII, butter was impossible to get, even with ration stamps or coupons. That’s when oleo-margarine came into being. It came in a white block with a little packet of yellow powder. When the block was softened, you mixed the powder up in it to make it look like butter. Then it was just a big yellow blob. It tasted like WD/40.

    Did you know that the chemical composition of margerine is only one molecule away from plastic?

    I’m with you, Helen about bacon and butter too. To hell with plugged up arteries! Moderation in all things is my motto.

    This is a hilarious tale about another ‘hardship’ of WWII. Silk stocking. Totally unavailable, somebody came up with ‘leg makeup’. Of course, we mostly wore bobby sox and brown and white saddle shoes. But when we got gussied up, it had to be with the harness of a garter belt and silk stockings. This was LONG before nylons or pantyhose.

    The ‘leg makeup’ came in various shades in a tube somewhat like toothpaste. It had the consistance of lotion or liquid foundation and you spread it on your legs. It had a sort of yuckky odor when you applied it. It also came with a brown pencil like an eyebrow pencil to draw a line down the back of your leg. The silk stockings had a seam there and you were always checking to see if your seams were straight.

    Are you getting a mental picture here?

    The goo dried – sort of – but it did smear on shoes and the hem of your skirt, chairs, ets. Heaven forbid that you wear pants and hide your legs!

    It was rumored that many a girl was enticed out of her, ahem, virtue by some young man dangling a pair of silk stockings before her eyes!

    Years later, a friend of ours was a manager in a textile mill where they manufactured silk and later nylon stockings. He said, there was final one step in the process whereby they could lock in the stitch so the stocking could not run.

    The ‘Powers That Be’ decided to omit that step so there would be more sales. Again, heaven forbid that any of us should go around with a run in our stocking!

    Aloha!

    Jean

  268. Jean:

    I remember that olio stuff. We had it in the 60’s. You could either eat it white, or you could blend in that little packet of veggie coloring to make it look more like butter.

    Also, my mom used to make us Spam sandwiches all the time. I hated Spam! So I would toss the spam and just eat the buttered bread.

    It is rather funny Jean. Now most young women do not wear nylons at all in the summer. They wear tights in the winter, but you never ever see them in panyhose.

    I vow to try to eat Spam again. Maybe trying it the “Hawaiian (sp?) way” might make a difference.

  269. I am a former Marine combat veteran (Viet Nam ‘67-’68). I have been following the comments on this post for a couple of days and especially appreciate those of ProudCommunityOrganizerWA, Jack, Alaska Pi, jean, and sophie. They have been very thought provoking. Some of my random reactions follow:

    Of special interest to me has been the speculation about why people enlist in the military. I think there are many different reasons why people enlist and in any specific person it may be a combination of reasons. I’ve tried for over forty years to figure out why I enlisted in the Marine Corps (especially when I was in boot camp). I’ve always told the story of how the recruiting offices for all of the services were on the second floor of the post office in Lincoln, NE. I went down there intending to talk to all of them and the Marine Corps office was the first one at the top of the stairs. After reading some of Joseh Campbell’s works, particularlly “The Power Of Myth” and “The Hero With A Thousand Faces”, I think that I just wanted to take the mythological journey of the Warrior and I think this is a common reason, especially for those who join the Army or the Marines.

    When veterans go to the Wall, they do not only weep for their friends and their families; they also grieve for those pieces of their soul they left behind.

    It was very popular in Viet Nam to have a personal motto engraved on a Zippo lighter. A couple of mottoes that stiuck in my mind were: “Yea though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil, for I know that I am the evilest son of a bitch in the Valley” and “When I kill, all I feel is the recoil”. Based on my admittedly limited contact with some of the Iraqi veterans I have met, I feel confident that these sentiments could be found echoed in Iraq. I’m scared, too. And with my Marine experience and over 30 years with the Texas Department of Corrections, I don’t scare easily. The people I fear for the most are these guys’ wives and children. The mantra of one of my sociology professors was” Hurt people hurt people”. We, as a society, will be struggling with these hurt people for years.

  270. lol. oh ick! jean. and just what is it that you eat with your wd40, that provides the basis for comparison ?

    couldn’t resist. reminded me of a friend who once told me that something tasted
    like skunk piss. and i told him that i would take his word for it.

  271. John.

    Wonderful post. That is why I posted earlier “We have met the enemy and he is us”.
    Hurt people do hurt people. And the cycle just repeats itself.

    Are you ok? Sometimes we question our actions but we also learn from them. And perhaps without the experiences we have, we might have been different people.

    Perhaps this has made you more compassionate, more thinking.

    Please write more. I would love to read more of your words.

  272. Where is Pi?
    Where is Greydog?
    Where is whirled peas?

  273. my husband is a disabled combat veteran from the korean war. he was wounded five times in combat. the way that he deals with his ‘traumas’ it to help other vets get the benefits that they are entitled to. we run a grassroots non-profit outreach and resource center for vets. mostly native american vets. but we have many non-native vets also.

    i have secondary ptsd from living with the symptoms of, first, my father’s ptsd from serving on an aircraft carrier in the south pacific in ww2 and from my husband’s symptoms.

    we also work with family members of veterans. we provide crisis counseling, and talking circles (group therapy). and we maintain a sweatlodge for use of veterans and their families.

    in working with indian vets we find that most millitary documents prior to gulf war denote caucasion as the race. this is because indian men could not be conscripted (drafted) to fight. many a
    recruiter in a rez border town filled their ‘quota’ recruiting indian men in ww2, korea and viet nam. there will never be an accurate accounting of how many american indians have served in the millitary for this reason. yet it is an accepted demographic that per capita more native americans that any other ethnic group volunteer to serve in the u.s. military.

    there is a traditional cultural component to why native americans volunteer to serve, in addition to the economic reasons.

    while serving in the military gave american indians some sense of status, they also had to contend with a lot of racism and bigotry. many dishonorable discharges can be traced back to a recruit standing up to a superior for some overt racial degradation.

    the current returning vets are not getting the support they deserve. their famililes are not getting the support they desparately need. and some va hospitals deliberately keep the young troops separated from the old vets who know the ropes around the va benefits beauracracy.

    before 9/11, the va spent money ‘remodeling’ and refurnishing facilities at regular intervals. especially the cafeterias. now they cannot keep up with the need for larger wards and more nursing facilities.

    support for our troops also means finding out what their needs are.

  274. They are holding their heads in shock, troutay…they’ve just read in Huffington Post that Sarah Palin believes that the media are giving Caroline Kennedy a pass because of “class” reasons. She thinks that C. Kennedy is a higher class person than herself (and she’s right) so the press if being nicer to C.K. When the above people come out of shock, I’m sure they’ll start writing again. I hope you are well, otherwise. ;>

  275. *sorry…press *is* being nicer.

    gramma rock: You are a beacon along with the many other fine people on this site. Native American trauma is a kind of specialty of mine b/c so many live in my area…they live with more trauma than anyone can imagine! Thank you for bringing ‘them’ into the fold.

  276. Happy New Year ladies!

  277. Of course Caroline Kennedy has more “class” than Sarah Palin. Homer Simpson has more class than Sarah Palin.

    :) thks carolanana

  278. hmmmm
    I didn’t intend to put that smilie face thing in there.
    It reminds me of WallyMart

  279. carolanana said-
    “They are holding their heads in shock, troutay…they’ve just read in Huffington Post that Sarah Palin believes that the media are giving Caroline Kennedy a pass because of “class” reasons. ”
    —————————
    Here is Pi… and I’m shovelling snow to work off my mad over this latest ghastly-gov-gaffe/goof/garble…
    I wish someone would color some super glue and send it to her as a lipstick…
    I’m gonna go shovel some more…
    ————–
    John- Thanks for stopping by. All the folks I know from Viet Nam era were drafted or signed up in hopes of having some choice in what they saw as inevitable service. Other folks have told me over the years that it was different in rural and urban areas… anyone know or remember?
    ————–
    I’m gonna go shovel…

  280. Mudflats just did a post. I am fuming. I don’t know what is wrong with that woman. I actually hate her and I don’t hate anyone. Her view point actually scares me. Really scares me.

    Pi:

    You shouldn’t push too hard. You will hurt yourself.

    I am stunned. Just stunned.
    I think I will go to bed early. I don’t even want to think about this yet.

  281. Smiley faces are always welcome…they were used long before Wally pre-empted them. Troutay is right Pi…take it easy shoveling when you’re angry – let Palin shovel the sh*t…maybe she’ll finally sink into the ooze she came from (dang dangling participles!)

  282. Oh carolanana and troutay-
    Ok- I shovelled a mountain of snow and walked the dogs and I might get into the Kahlua my sister made for me Christmas…

    If only we could get the gov to clean up after herself!!!!!!!! Before she was tapped for the VP run she was somewhat careful about spouting the BS. Used to be , you only caught it as lil asides or snipy oneliners.
    Since she came home she has not shut up!
    She seems to feel she has been anointed for something… The gov wants to carry the torch of stupidity the length and breadth of the country!

    Oh fooey- you all know that already.

    Just have to figure out how to stop her- here and from moving on.
    Ok- breathing normally , again. whew.

  283. Hey, books…..or book store gift certificates. I’d really have those than cookies. Then again, I just like to see what the kids and G’kids look like. One in Iran, another in Iraq…..and I have one of those dumb ribbons on the back of my pickup truck….ah well, even old ladies can be fools.

    Thanks for writing……

  284. Question for active duty and former active duty service men and women here…

    Over the years I’ve had a number of young (men) co-workers confide that they wish they had had to go to Viet Nam or somewhere similar. When I have pressed for whys , the clearest they can get with me and themselves is that they feel they have missed a defining-experience.

    Does anyone know what this is?

  285. Mage – IMO, the difference between the ribbon on the back of your truck and the ribbon on the back of a Cadillac Escalade or a Land Rover, is that YOU actually have family fighting. The “theme” of the post is that the majority of Americans have not changed their lifestyle or been affected by Bush’s illegal war – and the brunt of the initial burden is being carried by our military and guardsmen families – but that folks who drive around with their yellow magnets without really understanding the trials and turmoil personally are the first to scream out about “supporting the troops” – here at M & H, we honor our soldiers – and some of us feel that one of the ways to support the troops is to bring them home, ensure their families are cared for, and that all medical care is fully provided.

    As for SP – less said the better? Pi, I think you’re right – I think SP truly believes (like Burris) that she has been anointed by God. . . of course the question is, which god?

    Elsie – I work in canine hydrotherapy and massage. Most of my clients are pre- & post-op dogs, but many are disabled or aged canines or dogs suffering from cancer. Most months are good, but sometimes, the old ones are ready to go to the Bridge, and for some, the cancer wins. Even though it is tough, I have been honored to be with the families when they have listened to their hearts and given their canine family member a safe, loving, and dignified passage. Unfortunately, this past week, cancer won too much.

  286. On Caroline Kennedy – if the press gives CK a pass (which I don’t think they are), it won’t be because of class as in social status, but because of class as in dignity, moral code, and yes, history. I think support for CK’s Senate bid is eroding – and I don’t think she’s helped her case any. I’d like to see her actually campaign for the Senate though if she really is interested.

  287. Alaska Pi- I was an art student in NYC off and on for part of the Viet Nam War. All of my friends flunked the draft because they were mentally unstable. At least that is what they told me.I ran away to BC Canada with a friend avoiding the law . We met a few draft dodgers there and they were lonely, lost and had trouble finding legal work.A bit Later in Pasadena California , a man on my street was an ex marine. He was scary, angry, & on drugs( who wasn’t): the cops were after him and even put his 2 year old son in jail to teach him a lesson.This was so wrong…..LA county was the worst place. Are these the kind of memories that you had in mind? This was generally my urban experience and it was awful. Ann

  288. troutay,

    I’m in and out. Keepin’ an eye out. I got no good dtories. But if you want my two cents…you know how I feel:

    Why We Fight

    Watch the trailer then enter the site. Poke around after IKE’s (last sane republican) M-I-C speech.

    And/or watch the complete movie…

    RealPlayer required: Why We Fight ~ (1h40m)

    PEACE ~ Δ

  289. dtories = Stories.

    I was busy laughing at this and forgot to spell check:

    PEASE

    Δ

  290. I grew up overseas – and was in SE Asia during the Vietnam War. My parents were setting up medical clinics, schools, planned parenthood, microloans co-ops, churches, homes you name it, they did it. They taught, they preached, they counseled, and as the attrition rate took a toll on the chaplains, my dad volunteered at Clark. They opened their home to soldiers who has mini-R & R time and just wanted someplace like home to go for awhile. My brother and I had an obstacle course built by three Special Forces guys – and my first book of Shakespeare was from a chaplain who was killed during Tet. My school was international – we went from approx. 700 students to almost 1500 following Tet and not a day went by that the military cars with my dad or another missionary with them to let a student know of a parent’s death. From 1964-1968, the graduating classes lost over 1/2 the males to the Vietnam War. For a small school, where you knew everyone, it was a tremendous loss. We learned the differences in sound between a loaded Huey and an empty one. To this day, I get teary eyed hearing a Freedom Bird overhead. And I find myself listening. . . to the sweet chop of the blades, to the drone of the engine, to the thump that echoes deep into your soul. . .

  291. AnnΔ- yup- sorta.
    My mom thought I should be exposed to lots of different ideas and she periodically carted me off to San Francisco to see and do things.( She didn’t take my younger sisters as often… not sure what that was about.)
    At any rate, the year 3 guys I knew all died in Viet Nam within a month of each other she took me to a huge anti-war rally . There were elements of the SDS there-I think it was before the Weather Underground off shoot days.There were people advocating fleeing to Canada…
    I don’t remember a lot because a poor fellow next to mom and I had a grand-mal seizure . Some young male stranger and I tried to take care of him while mom went to get help. Getting help got problematic as the crowd got pushy-shovey with the cops who responded. It got somewhat grim.

    Previous to that ,the only person I knew who had resisted the draft suffered terribly before and after he got his CO status. He was shunned by the war-monger types and teased by peers waiting to be drafted for being a “nancy-boy” .
    He was a friend of my family and a good and decent human being. It was such a huge deal in the rural small-town do-your-duty world I knew.

    And , crimenently- that one foray into the big city , I saw what seemed like a million people yelling hell-no-we-won’t-go!!!!!!!!

  292. Sorry about all the dropped words – I’m exhausted today. Early in at 630 home at 7, emergency call at 730 and just returning home now. YAWN. Night all. Maybe I’ll be more coherent another day. Don’t let the bedbugs bite – and I hope the folks in Washington (Proud & her family especially) are safe from the floods and avalanches.
    Don’t have nightmares about SP – she’s just not worth the brain cells when you could be dreaming of the day Barak Obama becomes the POTUS.

  293. Dear Helen, Margaret and Everyone,

    This is the end of the story of my brother, R.G. in WWII. I am a resilient old broad and always have been I guess. His death was a terrible wound to my heart. It healed but left a formidable scar there. The pain has been gone for a long time. However, the MEMORY of that pain brings a lump to my throat even as I write this.

    In high school I had a friend whose father had cherry orchards. In the summertime, if there were no hailstorms to wipe out the crops, a bunch of our friends picked cherries with her and her dad. We climbed the trees or sometimes used ladders and filled baskets with the cherries. The baskets were about 18 inches long by 3-4 inches wide and 3-4 inches deep. We were paid 2 cents a basket. We could make a whopping whole dollar in a good day! Of course, we clowned around, laughing and talking a lot of the time. We would take a lunch and make a day of it.

    One summer German prisoners-of-war were working in the sugar beet fields abutting the cherry orchard. Armed guards stood around keeping an eye on them. Naturally, we were very curious about them. We gathered around the fence trying to get as close a view of them as we could. We were surprised to see that they looked just like any other young men. No horns or tails.

    We received a telegram in June of 1944. R.G. was reported missing in action. After three anxious prayer-filled weeks, the fateful telegram arrived, regretting to inform that he had been killed at the Anzio Beachhead in Italy.

    We received official letters regularly from the War Department, (now the Defense Department). His remains were buried in a TEMPORARY military cemetery at Naturno, Italy.

    My mother wrote letter after letter trying to find out what happened. Eventually, we received not an official form, but a personal letter from a chaplain describing R.G.’s death. May 23, 1944, Staff Sergeant Ralph Guy Miller was returning from a patrol with his squad when he stumbled into the trio wires of a land mine. He was 24.

    A number of YEARS later, out of the blue, here came another telegram saying that R.G.’s remains were being returned to the United States and what did my dad want done with them. It was as if R.G. had been killed all over again. Grief overwhelmed us once again, especially my dad. This was after all, his only son. Our line of the family surname died with R.G.

    R.G. is now buried in a Military Cemetery in Nebraska with row, upon row, upon row, upon row, upon row, upon row, upon row, upon row of white headstones. I ultimately became the custodian of R.G.’s records, newspaper clippings and personal effects.

    My cousin Hootie, was on a B-17 and was shot down somewhere over Europe. No one ever knew where. His plane just never returned. Years after the war was over, his dog tags were found in Holland in a farmer’s field and returned to my aunt. All that time she didn’t know what had become of him and never did, except he was presumed dead.

    At the time, I didn’t know this but my Dad had a little New Testament of the Bible that he had carried when he was in the army during World War I. It had his name and military serial number in it. He had given it to R.G. when his young soldier son went off to war. Many, many years later apparently it was found by some kind soul in Italy and turned over to the American Embassy. The Veteran’s Administration tracked down my dad’s serial number and returned the bedraggled little book to us.

    Out of R.G’s original 157th Infantry, only FIVE survived the drive on Rome and ultimately into Berlin. I don’t know how many men are in an infantry. When R. G. died, he had 387, that’s THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-SEVEN front line fighting days. That’s not counting the three weeks he spent in the field hospital with a shrapnel wound and was sent back.

    Oh yes. R.G. received a Purple Heart Medal and citation with the president’s rubber-stamped signature. I have never understood why such a prize is put on military medals. As if young lives cut short are worth nothing more than military trinkets.

    Many months after R.G’s death, we received a box of his personal effects. Along with HIS own New Testament of the Bible, a comb, a brush for shining boots, and a few pictures, was a small American Flag about 3 inches by 5 inches that he must have carried in his pocket. It was crumpled, dirty and splattered with dried blood.

    Aloha!

    Jean

    P.S. I defy ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME to dare wave an American flag in my face and question my patriotism and fidelity to my country!!!!!!!

  294. “I get teary eyed hearing a Freedom Bird overhead. And I find myself listening. . . to the sweet chop of the blades, to the drone of the engine, to the thump that echoes deep into your soul. . .”
    Greytdog- I’ve stood with my arm around so many cousins and friends who were saying almost the very same thing…
    I never know what to say… Are you ok?

  295. Dear, dear Jean…my dad flew bombers over Germany throughout that awful war…I am crying for you. After he got home he had four sons old enough to fight in Vietnam so he got himself elected to the draft board and managed to get three of them off of the draft by hiding their numbers. The fourth flew to Canada and then on to New Zealand where he is to this day…lost from his family as though he had been killed in Nam. My husband’s brother fought and died at 50 from the effects of Agent Orange. Is there a family anywhere who has not suffered through these insane wars…anyone? anywhere?

  296. “Is there a family anywhere who has not suffered through these insane wars…anyone? anywhere?”

    nope…

  297. jean, mii gwetch (thank you) for sharing r.g. and hootie’s stories.

  298. After flying for 16 hours, I had a layover and decided to see if you had posted something. What a delight that you had and what a great post!

    I didn’t vote for Bush, was mad as hell when we went to war in Iraq and I can’t stand the facist in pantyhose “I’m a poor little victim” Palin. Like you, I am going to keep writing to try to keep up awareness because I feel America has slept for the past 25 years and the horrible mess that we’re in may just wake us back up. At least I hope so, but I hope that never in my lifetime again do I hear when I am encouraging someone to vote for President, that the office of the President doesn’t matter.

    Yes it does. So don’t let the door hot you on the way out George Bush, Cheney may you gag on something and leave us all in peace you scumbag war profiteer, and as for Palin, I hope one of those moose gets a chance at her too!

  299. Jean-
    I had a story for you…
    but I haven’t the words tonight. Thank you for being able to make a story tell truth.

    Here is a tiny piece of the story I wanted to share with you… these are my mother’s people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleut_Restitution_Act_of_1988

  300. Hi again, I’m spanking brand new on this blog and have enjoyed reading all of the posts. I’m trying to find out which side of the fence most of you fall. I must say, I’ve been thoroughly entertained thus far.

    Okay, here goes: IMO means: In my opinion
    IMHO: In my humble opinion LOL: Laugh out loud IROTFLOL: I’m rolling on the floor laughing out loud GMAB: Give me a break

    Our young people, who text message use these when sending messages from their blackberrys, etc.

    My dad was a 20 year navy guy…fought in Korea. We lived in Cuba for several years when I was a little girl. He was a tugboat captain at that time. I’m an east coast gal…live approximately 6 miles from the White House in Alexandria, VA. Not looking forward to the inauguration on the 20th…traffic, inconvenience, etc.

  301. Amazing what a night’s rest can do for the body and soul (the word “rest” is used lightly as the feline gymnastics start as soon as my head hits the pillow. Question: how can three soft-padded creatures sound so much like a herd of thundering elephants?)
    Pi, I am fine. But thanks for asking!

    Jean, thank you for sharing R.G.’s and Hootie’s stories with us. IIt is important for us to remember – to bear witness – to those who we love who did pay the ultimate sacrifice to free this world from evil. And yes, I do believe that WWII was a war against the evil men do. The other subsequent wars are less defined for me. But the sacrifices are not. When we, as a nation, ask a generation to fight and sacrifice on our behalf, it behooves us to ensure that the cause is just, the armed forces well-led, and that we do not, in our fear, remove from our shores the very freedoms for which our children and grandchildren will fight and die for – to allow the rights of our citizens to be in any way threatened by our government is to make a mockery of the very sacrifices we demand from our folks in harm’s way.

    Did anyone see the clips from Congress certifying the Electoral College votes? Dana Milbank in today’s WaPo calls it “behaving badly” because some Repubs wouldn’t applaud and most Democrats went over the top in applauding. Well Mr. Milbank, that is not Congress behaving badly – Congress behaved badly when they accepted as fact that Iraq had WMDs, when they allowed the mortgage industry to be deregulated, when they allowed a multi-billion dollar bailout to occur without any semblance of oversight, and they continue to behave badly by not holding responsible those who implemented a policy of torture disguised as “national security”. THAT’s Congress behaving badly.

  302. I just woke up and am checking in and my tears are flowing as I sit with my coffee…I am sorry for all our losses and pain.Alaska Pi; on the subject of Peace Marches , I believe I attended most every major one in Central Park,and being a funloving type mostly thought of them as big parties-gatherings of cool people.The Kent State Murders struck a most different chord.It was the end of the academic year…noone graduated since all the schools shut down. I was working on a giant cross in my sculpture class- I remember that a group of us carried it over to The New School, where there was a rally and put it on the steps. A short while later I left for Canada. Ann

  303. AnnΔ, here’s some irony. At the time of the Kent State killings, one cousin was a professor at Kent. his brother, the middle one, was a graduate student. The youngest – a National Guardsman. All met on that lawn at Kent State. All are okay, but the killings basically severed the ties between the brothers. There were casualties both in ‘Nam and at home.

  304. YES!Greytdog It was like the war between the states -brother against brother. I was fortunate to be living among liberal people even though there was that other war against older people by us young ones. I do not think I would have survived the Viet Nam Era had I been elsewhere- and I barely made it anyway….Are we going to start writing about the Assasinations? That has been an undercurrent at times here. Sarah Palin clearly was not around for that or I believe she would have been more moderate -oh probably not.

  305. Thanks everyone for all the thoughful and informative posts.

    Greytdog: I’m glad to hear there are people like you out there. I lost my 9 year old Golden last year to cancer. So sad that our animals are having to die of cancer but at least we don’t have to let them suffer like humans do.

    “Is there a family anywhere who has not suffered through these insane wars…anyone? anywhere?”

    Another nope!

    Jean, thanks for all your stories, the funny ones and the sad ones. Having been raised as an Air Force brat as a child in Hawaii and the Philippines, I can relate.

  306. By line today on MSNBC.com:
    “Bacon, Butter fuel fastest South Pole trek”
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28573093/

  307. Raji – where in the Philippines and when?

  308. Alaska Pi
    Pitbull with superglue lipstick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    “MMMWUMPF,mwupf mwupf mwarff!!!!!”

    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Werner

  309. Keith: re PTSD. I can only speak from my own experience with PTSD also, but there were a couple things that helped me, and I hope maybe you can take something useful from this to help your partner.
    In my case, I lived in a continual state of fight or flight, even after the danger was finally past. I’m not sure which was the cause and which was the effect, but for a while, the constant flow of adrenaline kept my body in an unhealthy condition and my mind in a hopeless-feeling panic. A miracle came to me in the form of a shrink who was a biologist; she was able to explain to me the role of my thoughts (total fear) to my health. It took a very long time for me to first be aware of the thoughts of fear, and then be able to change the them, but once I did, I was then able to change the chemicals in my brain that caused the physical problems, such as malnutrition and the problems it caused.
    Being able to change our thoughts is a very difficult challenge, if it’s looked at as an exercise like walking — work at it consciously a little bit every day — all the rest will follow. Working at it from a biological point of view instead of a character flaw was the turning point for me. Maybe reading the book Grandma Katie recommended about the brain would help your partner to know how it works.
    I don’t know if this was part of your experience with PTSD, and I’m not very good at explaining what I mean. For what it’s worth, I hope you understand what I’m stumbling to say, and I hope it helps.
    Best wishes to you both.

  310. Oh Werner…- You got the picture! Goodo!

    “Pitbull with superglue lipstick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    “MMMWUMPF,mwupf mwupf mwarff!!!!!””
    ————————-
    Greytdog said-
    “…to bear witness – to those who we love who did pay the ultimate sacrifice to free this world from evil. And yes, I do believe that WWII was a war against the evil men do. ”

    I think you are right Greytdog- all across the board.
    We must also pay attention to -bear witness- to All of WHAT we do… as the wrong things done for the right reasons can have terrible consequences…
    Most people have never known about

    “… the 881 Aleuts sent by the federal government to internment camps during World War II. With their homes suddenly in a war zone, the evacuation was meant to get them out of harm’s way. But that’s not how this rescue mission unfolded. Spread out among five isolated camps in Alaska’s Southeast, 1,500 miles from home, in strange rain-forest land that felt suffocating to those accustomed to treeless, windswept tundra, the Aleuts were left to languish from neglect, malnutrition and disease. ”
    http://www.aaanativearts.com/article1269.html

    These are my mother’s people…
    this is in the days of “no natives, no dogs…” signs in business establishments…

  311. This is a little wandering, but still about bad guys. Check it out; click on to hear the song, scroll down to read the lyrics.
    Laugh or cry; either fits.
    http://www.naturalnews.com/I_Want_My_Bailout_Money.html

  312. To Greytdog
    appologize for cruelty to (virtual) animalistic SP!! ;-)

    I also lost 2 dogs to cancer, but I found the difference very big.
    My first (Boxer, German Shepard, Kuwatsch and Puhly mix, all shepard dogs) was a fighter, had his cancer (big lumpish thing in his underbelly) for 3 years but suffered only occasionally, chased a 6 month old german sheper all arounnd our neighbourhood park 2 weeks before he died (with 12 years and a half) because he tried to steal his stick, than died the day (night) before I decided I would bring him to the vet (It was in my mother in laws garden, I carried him down for his “business” but decided since it was a very warm summer night to sit with him there, play my guitar (which he always loved) and around midnight he passed away.)

    The other, a German shepard mix, suffered form intestine cancer for over a year permanently until I finally had to put him down with only 8 years of age!
    My son really misses him (they where born within 2 month of each other and grew up together). Didin’t get a new dog since in Canada, esp. in the city and in some parks they are VERY unfriendly to dogs (permanent leash, big fines and more and more no dogs allowed signs), Maybe when I retire, I would like to move to the coast somewhere (miss the salty taste a lot) and then I might get another one or two….

    Werner

  313. Pi
    thirst things that comes to my mind reading about “No Natives, No Dogs” since is that the first thing I would have added is a “No Hearts” to that!

    It is a pitty if you ahve to live in a small community where ther is not enough choices in business so that a boycott would help wake up such assholes to reality.

    But you know, it’s not for nothing we call this a global village now, our kids have a chance to make a real difference, and all move closer together, and with the Net to expose such and other assholes on a global range they can only succeed in small pockets and most people have a chance to move out of ther influence by now.

    This world isn’t the best place in the univers, but is the only one WE got, so let’s work together to make it the best WE can……

    Werner

  314. Quoting Greytdog Δ 7:18 AM

    “here’s some irony. At the time of the Kent State killings, one cousin was a professor at Kent. his brother, the middle one, was a graduate student. The youngest – a National Guardsman. All met on that lawn at Kent State. All are okay, but the killings basically severed the ties between the brothers.”

    I have my own version of that family divide over ‘current atrocities’ that we’ve all witnessed this past decade. Let’s just say it hasn’t gotten physical…yet. ;)

    When we can get over/thru it, maybe we all stand a chance, as a nation and a species. Same goes for the Kent St brothers. Hopefully peace and reconciliation will rule.

    Evolution…it what’s next.

    Δ

  315. troutay- get out from under the covers!
    Remember 2 of the other verses of WE SHALL OVERCOME?

    We’ll walk hand in hand, we’ll walk hand in hand…someday

    We are NOT afraid, we are NOT afraid…TODAY!
    ————
    I gotta go shovel some more. We got 2 ft overnight and a warmimg trend moving in is gonna make night mares out there…

  316. Pi:

    I read about that in a book called “The Blue Bear”.
    So sad that they just abandoned them and many died from lack of nourishment and other diseases.
    How can you uproot a people and then just leave them to fend for themselves??

    Man’s inhumanity to man. Same old story of corruption and abuse.

  317. Proud- you ok in YOUR weather there?

  318. Pi

    I have been up since 4:30 a.m. At work at the moment, took a break to see who was here.

  319. troutay- there you are!

  320. Yep Yep. I am here. I have 45 min to go and then I can go home and take a nap!

  321. Am putting off the shovelling fir a few mins…

    I haven’t sorted out a lot of things…
    My mother has spent her life trying to bring the stories forward and leave the anger behind..
    I get too angry oft times .
    I have to shut up oft times so I can keep the covenant -hatred must stop. I must not let it in.

  322. fir shoulda been for…
    I’m gonna end up with the ghastly gov’s phony accent if I don’t watch out!

  323. Ohmigosh – you did it again. You made me laugh out loud with the kiss from Bush.

    Yes, if we citizens don’t speak out then those in power will keep on doing the awful things they have been doing for 8 years.

    Obama doesn’t get a pass from me either; he is already softening his position on health care. The Republicans are already sharpening their claws to shred any legislation that the Dems try to pass. It’s disgusting.

  324. Greytdog wrote:Raji – where in the Philippines and when?

    Clark Air Force Base and I believe it was 1949-l950.

    Pi, Interesting information you posted about the Aleuts. I had no knowledge of their situation. Thanks for posting. Once again, a very informative blog thanks to M&H.

  325. Hi Greytdog, Raji, Pi and all

    We have a rather good Canadian writer writing about the Inuit situation up north since the late forties until today:

    Farley Mowat

    “………. He achieved fame with the publication of his books on the Canadian North, such as People of the Deer (1952) and Never Cry Wolf, (1963).[1] The latter, an account of his experiences with wolves in the Arctic, was made into a film, released in 1983.
    ………….”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farley_Mowat

    I read “Walking the Land”

    Very impressive!

    And since he really lived often with the people and did extensive research in the archives it is rather well founded information, and belive me, the Canadian authorities are not one jota better than the US gov.

    Werner

  326. I have so many thanks to give but am still working it out inmy7 mind. So until later.

    Thjese posts give me so uch to th ink abou8t my brain is woozy7. Too busy raising kids and coping with a husband in those days to remember m uch. Got to th ink some more.

    Grey tdog when you mentioned massage did you mean for the dogs? henever I heard of massage being useful in other fields, I talked about it to the class. MOst didn’t pay much attentioin, but they seemed to have the idea it was an easy way to make money. Wrong idea. It’s hard work.

  327. Grandma Katie- yes I do massage the puppies~ it isn’t an easy way to make money, especially my way since most of it is pro bono or barter. But, I was able to “translate” my massage techniques when my dad was terminally ill – he couldn’t communicate and his therapist was very frustrated. So I found myself, quite by accident, responding to his skin and muscle activity the same way that I have to with the animals. His massage therapist was very surprised. I think we spend so much time relying on oral/aural communication, we forget that there are other ways to communicate – my pups have taught me that! Trust me, if I ignore their signals, it means a nip or a bite – once that happens, you NEVER forget.

  328. If any of you go to the Crooks And Liars blog site, you will see that the Porn industry is now looking for a bailout.

    Pretty funny actually.

  329. I awarded you the Premio Dardos Award. See here: http://misadventuresofmonsterlibrary.blogspot.com/2009/01/misadventures-in-awards.html

  330. chain award for bloggers…… I think my brain goes on strike!

    Monster go back in the hole you crawled out from or go get a life, if this was in good intention, it was I miss, I think……..hope!

    Werner

  331. I mean the first part is real nice, but when you read on and into the details you start to shiver,…… it just won’t go away, the chain bull****, even after 20 years and more, it still lifts it’s ugly head

    Werner

  332. Troutay – I saw the headlines about the porn industry. bwahahahaha. Maybe if Larry Craig sponsors it and Vitter signs on. . . .

  333. Thanks Werner for the recon on the chainletter link. Now Elsie that’s a dead giveaway to beware, here be dragons! (or at least pop ups) Guess monster wants to up their blog hits

  334. Why do people do that? I have a blog but I would never be so corny as to go around posting it every where.

    LOL Greydog. Larry Craig….ewwwwwwwww

  335. The thought of having sex in a public nasty dirty bathroom makes me sick. ick ick ick!

  336. troutay: Thanks for asking if I’m ok. Mentally and emotionally, I just keep getting better, or maybe more delusional. Physically, age and genetics are slowly starting to take their toll.

    When I first read Helen’s post, the first thing that came to my mind also was the Pogo quote. I googled “Pogo” because I couldn’t remember Walt Kelly’s first name and learned that the cartoon statement evolved from Kelly’s reaction to McCarthyism and pollution. Just as relevant as it was over 50 years ago.

    Alaska Pi: I’ve struggled with the “defining experience” expression. My best guess is they regret they passed up an opportunity to be a hero, which of course is a common childhood desire.

    Greytdog: The sound of chopper blades evokes memories for me, tto. Mostly good ones. They were our lifeline in Viet Nam. Billy Joel recorded a song titled “We’ll All Go Down Together” a number of years ago which makes very effective use of the sound of chopper blades. It is a tear jerker, though. You appear to use the term “Freedom Bird” to apply to helicopters. When I was in Viet Nam, the USA was usually called “the Free World” or “the Real World”. A freedom Bird was a jetliner which carried us back to the World.

  337. Troutay, Greytdog
    …..But what is wrong with the bailout of the Porn Industry?

    If I could legally steal a couple billions, I’d give it a try…….

    Cars, Porn, Banks (that shell out money (70 Millons!!!!!) to shareholders AFTER receivng bail-out, see NSH Bank Germany)

    I’d say same shit, different package!

    So I am not wondering at all, I mean I DON’T agree but it sounds all completly normal to me……. or am I getting a bit too numb here?

    ROFL

    Werner
    BTW
    One thing is true, though, if those Porn stars, bankers and all blow the money (up their noses, asses and down their throats) It’s still better than spend on weapons…. even if even I can think of a million and one uses where we REALLY could do some good with it.

    Sarcasm makes the world go round, and round, and round………….

  338. Good day everyone!

    I have finished the month end books for our food bank and seem to be spending way to much time on the phone dealing with community politics for the food bank. Not including the meeting I attended yesterday! LOL

    Pi and Greytdog thank you for your concern. The area I live in is fine. We do have more water on our property than usual as it is a seasonal wetland and our ditches were overflowing but we did not have flooding!

    I do have a couple of relatives who have homes that are in the flooding areas and they cannot get to them yet. They are safe, but not sure what the damage to their homes will be.

    The last two winters have definately taken there toll on all of us here in Western WA.

    Actually the meeting I attended for our food bank in part dealt with emergency issues. Our state learned last year that food banks and other Non profits can be of great help in these statewide emergencies. We are creating a chain in our area for food storage, water drop off, clothing donations etc….So if an area is affected they can designate who can store what through the emergency and where people can get emergency food supplies.

    Last year the food bank in Rochester WA became a staging area purely by happenstance and it had to deal with so much from people being rescued by helicopter and being lifted to a field next the food bank and to trying to find drinking water and even dry hay for livestock. The state realized that we are a great resource for all of this.

    Rochester is about 45 minutes from us. So our county is on the call list if we need to stage any supplies. So far so good. I am just sad that the people who were recovering from last years flooding are once again realizing that they will have another mess to clean up.

    We need infrastructure funding for these areas more than ever now.

  339. Hi John – my SO read my post and gently pointed out that the vets referred to the jets carrying them home as Freedom Birds – I just remember a USAF Staff Sgt holding my hand as the very first Huey I ever saw/heard flew overhead and told me that was Freedom flying. . .so my brother and I always called them Freedom Birds. . . I was 7 yrs old. . .
    I know that Billy Joel song – did you ever see him do that in concert with the Vietnam Vets – men and women all over the concert hall stood up and sang out. . . and cried and cheered each other on.

  340. Hi Gang and Honolulu Sally,

    Good for you, taking on your school and improving it! One person can effect change. I applaud you and I like your attitude!

    I may have to re-evaluate my attitude toward Spam. I haven’t even deigned to taste it since WWII. It’s obvious I have a mental block there. I love anything teriyaki! Kim chee is often a little too potent for me, but as you know, no two people make it the same. I’m not familiar with choi sum. I love odobo. This much I do know. If someone is gracious enough to invite me for a meal, and kind enough to prepare it for me, I’ll eat it! Well, most of the time.

    Maybe you can solve a mystery for me. We went to a high school graduation bash for the son of some friends. He and I have a fun good-natured relationship with lively repartee going back and forth. I should have smelled a setup when he and a couple of his friends came around with a plate of delicious looking hors d’oeuvres. As I was munching on it he told me that they had harvested them themselves. He said they are a rare delicacy. That they went out at night with flashlights to tide-pools and found them under rocks. That they were ‘_______’(?) and like leeches.

    I gagged and spit it out into my hand. The boys doubled over with laughter and told me that I just spit out $10.00. Were they putting me on? Do you know the name of that ‘rare delicacy’?

    Aloha!

    Jean

  341. Hey, Greytdog, thanks for the heads-up about that chain letter link. With my husband’s warnings in mind, I decided to “google” separately the words mentioned in that link. Then I reviewed the URLs attached to my findings. Fairly quickly, I saw at least two saying something about “MoFo” in plural. My brain spins a bit slowly sometimes, but, after a moment, I remembered what that abbreviation stands for, and decided to pass on the web site mentioned in the link above!

    His Worship also warned me that Google has been infected with malware, as well, and for me not to trust its various links as I once did. So I just try to be careful.

    Troutay, you mentioned that you have a blog but don’t link to it. Would you please post it here, if I ask politely? I’ve thought about your name here, thinking, well, let’s see, there’s “Trout A” and then there’s “Trout B”. So you are the former rather than the latter!

  342. Good afternoon all,

    I do believe in Santa Claus! I do! I do! I do! He brought us a new refrigerator!!!! The old one had a hopeless, unfixable icemaker. It started to leak. That f**king piece of s**t is gone forever! Just like the Bush Administration in 10 days. I think my language will be cleaned up considerably now.

    There were two brawny young men that hauled it out and brought the new one up the 10 steps to the kitchen like it was a bit of fluff! It is humming right along and very much at home. Our living room, dining room and kitchen are on the upper level to best take advantage of our breathtaking views of the mountains and the ocean.

    btw. SEE! SEE! Whirled Peas, I’m learning to speak computerese! Down here in the study where the computer is, I have a sign that I made to remind me. It is a big red circle with a slash across it like the ‘No Parking’ and ‘No Smoking’ signs. It is crossing out the big black letters that say, ‘NO SNIVELING’.

    Aloha!

    Jean

  343. Hi everyone. I think this link is a good read. Editor’s letter, Graydon Carter from Vanity Fair on The Year of Investing Dangerously.

    http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2009/02/graydon200902

  344. I support our soldiers. – Raymonty.

  345. Raymonty – we all support our soldiers – and we all show our support in diverse and heartfelt ways. What we don’t do is accuse people of “palin’ around with terrorists’, or claiming that other people who don’t march in lockstep with us are “unAmerican” or not part of “real America.”

    Now then – some are you are probably wondering: “Why is Greytdog growling at raymonty?” Well because I went to the other post raymonty put up and decided that a warning growl was more polite than just an outright bite. :)
    Woof!

  346. Elsie – does the hubby know you refer to him as His Worship? I usually refer to SO as High-Ass when he starts pontificating in geek-speak

  347. Difficult week getting back into work mode after two weeks off. So this evening, I poured a glass of wine and read all the comments to try to catch up.

    I forgot who posted the comment about “changing your brain” but here’s an experience I had:

    I am afraid to fly. Seriously, terrifyingly afraid. My (now ex) husband felt this would limit our lives and encouraged me to sign up for a “Fearless Flyers” course. American Airlines used to offer them back in the early 90s.

    We were taught “thought stopping” as a way to re-program our brains to not give in to fearful thoughts. In order to achieve this, we were each given a wide rubber band to put around our wrist. As soon as a fearful thought came into your head, you were supposed to SNAP that band and tell yourself “I will NOT be afraid.”

    After two days of intensive sessions, our group took a *graduation* flight. We flew from Chicago O’Hare to some city in Michigan, about an hour away. After a brief layover, we returned.

    They sat our group of about 25 all together in the middle of the plane, surrounded by unwitting passengers who had no idea that we were, up until two days before, extremely fearful flyers. From the boarding gate on, all you kept hearing was rubber-band snaps. Here, there, across the aisle, two rows up, five rows back. WE all knew what was going on but I still wonder what everyone else thought.

    (The class worked, I guess, until I had to fly again, about 9 months later. I took the flight I needed, hated every minute of it, and can happily say that it was my last time on a plane.)

    Hugs to M&H, wedgies and other visitors.

    Δ

  348. Welcome back Maven! Here’s wishing you a great new year without the need for a plane!

  349. Greytdog Δ

    Who in heck decided that they could put an “un” in front of MY American? There is no “un”.

    (Nice to see ya, by the way, I have missed you folks!)

    Δ

  350. Greytdog, I have a VARIETY of names for my husband of 38 years. “His Worship” is my typical nickname for him. I also call him “row-BEAR”. Sometimes, I just call him “His Irrelevancy”. But most of the time, he’s just my Rob.

    And he also answers to the name of “Dad” when our daughter talks to him.

  351. Wisdom for the day: You can give a scratching post to a cat, but they’ll still prefer the leather couch. Sigh

  352. does anyone remember hrayon stockings? They stretched and streched and were down by your ankles when you got home.

  353. Aloha Jean,

    Glad you might give spam a chance again. I laugh because just last night I was telling my husband’s ukulele making group about this blog and how lots of people hate spam because of the war rationing. One of the girls started sighing about how her mother used to dress the spam like ham, with cloves and bake it in the oven and put a glaze of brown sugar, pineapples, etc on it and serve it like a fine ham. Can you imagine a small rectangle of spam right from the can all dressed up and glorified? She loved it.

    The delicacy you gagged and spit out is called “opihi”. It is very expensive and harder to get nowadays. You can sometimes find them where waves crash on rocks. One of our mainland guests told us they are called “limpets”. I don’t care for it, but beer drinkers love it. It’s a bit too sea-tasting for me.

    Hmmm. But in tidepools and under rocks at night – maybe you were better off spitting it out.

    If you ever want to try a spam musubi, make about 2 cups of medium grained white rice, divide into 5 piles on waxed paper or cutting board. Insert ume (ooo-may; pickled plum) in center and form into firm rectangles with dampened slightly salted hands. Set aside.

    To prepare the spam, slice into 1/4″ slabs. One can will yield approximately 8 slices. Put about 2 tablespoons of brown sugar in a pot, heat gently and add 1/4 to 1/2 cup japanese soy sauce and smashed slices of fresh ginger root. Stir until dissolved, add a little water (very little). Put spam slices in, trying to not overlap and cooked one layer at a time. Turn each piece over carefully and simmer on low for about 5 minutes.

    Transfer one piece of spam onto each rice rectangle and wrap around with a half sheet of nori. Yum, time to eat. Or wrap individually in waxed paper or saran wrap, and take to the beach as a snack/meal.

    It sounds like a lot of work, and it can be. I don’t always make mine and I do enjoy trying other people’s musubis. Actually, I was surprised that 7-11 has a pretty good spam musubi – without ume.

    My daughter in LA college makes it all the time for her soccer team and college mates. They call her “Aunty” because of it.

    Sally

  354. Maven ∆,

    I saw that rubber band on the wrist therapy in a movie. It was a silly funny movie (I forget the name of it), and the school bus driver used to swear a blue streak so the kids on the bus started swearing. They would have had to fire him unless he stopped swearing, so he had to wear a rubber band on his wrist and snap it everytime he swore. Of course, when he would snap it, he would swear because it hurt, then swear because he swore.

    I’m sorry you have such a fear of flying, and forgive me for laughing, but it must have been funny with the rubber band snapping throughout the plane.

  355. Joe Galloway has an excellent commentary on how the Bush government supported the vets (NOT):
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/338/story/59414.html

  356. Good Morning all!

    Greytdog read your link and it just makes my blood boil. While he touched on the suicides what the article did not say was that suicides of returning vets is at an all time high and so is divorce.

    For the Bush administration to try and take credit and call their treatment of soldiers and vets as one of their greatest accomplishment just makes me sick to my stomach.

    I also watched last night as Bush once again is trying to rewrite history and claim that his no child left behind is a raging success! In what world?

    This is a person who has absolutely no shame and no conscience. He even went as far as to say he is a liberator of our school systems.

    I really think he has started drinking again.

  357. Greytdog-
    Mr Galloway’s commentary is indeed excellent…
    Thank you.
    ————
    Jean, Honolulu Sally, et al-
    I have been following this Spam thingy.
    Nowadays, there are all kinds of freeze-dried foods and so on but when I was a kid Spam was what you took on fly-fishing backpack trips with dad. It was what you ate when you did not catch fish. It always tasted like defeat to me but my sisters liked it.
    ——————–
    John said-
    “I’ve struggled with the “defining experience” expression. My best guess is they regret they passed up an opportunity to be a hero, which of course is a common childhood desire. ”

    That’s as close a guess as I’ve ever managed -thanks.
    ————–
    Proud-
    Glad to hear you are fine!
    Your state is sensible to pull in non-profits and organize plans for taking care of folks in floods and so on.
    Emergency planning must be tough- the type that hopes to be ready to move at any moment but might sit for years without mobilizing?
    Hard to keep folks’ attention on the necessity of infrastructure when calamities are so unpredictable in occurance?

  358. Speaking of infrastructure woes, Rachel Maddow’s show last night touched on that particular, not-going-away-any-time-soon problem. Maybe it’s a smart move for the bridges leading into DC to be closed for Obama’s inauguration. Those structures may not be able to handle the increased traffic load. I drove on the Great Potomac Bridge – from VA to MD – and that definitely uncovered a potential bridge phobia which only was increased when I read the reports that called the structure functional obsolete and structurally deficient. And that is what? One bridge built in the 20s out of how many throughout this country??? Egads. But hey – let’s bail out Citigroup and maybe later on develop technologies for fishing cars out of our rivers or digging homes out from coal ash lehars.

  359. Jean Honolulu Sally the memories of Spam are of my Dad frying it up and making Spam sandwiches on white bread. His other cooking talent was fried Bologna on white bread. LOL My mother died when I was 6 and we had many of these sandwiches for meals. Might be why I don’t head to Spam or Bologna when I grocery shop.

    Pi the state learned a valuable lesson in the flooding of 2007. The man who is the head of emergency response here did a seminar at an event I attended just after the flooding.

    We have a non profit in our state called Food Life Line. They coordinate and bring together all of the Food Banks and Food Pantries and we become a buying group. They do all of the foot work in researching and doing food recovery so that we can buy non perishables for pennies on the dollar. They also work with grocery chains for food recovery so we get many items for free. They warehouse the items and actually have warehouses all over the state and trucks so they truck our items to us.

    When the flooding occured in 2007 the state was trying to figure out how to get drinking water to the affected areas because everything was closed off. They were getting desperate and were going to helicopter the water in. Thank goodness the Director of Food Life Line saw this report on the news. She tracked the mans number down and called him several times the next day. He finally called her back and had no idea who she was or what Food Life Line was. When they finally got on the same page she informed him that they had a warehouse right in the affected area and a dry route to get the cases and cases of drinking water they had in their warehouse to the Rochester Food bank that they had staged as a recovery center. (That is another long story).

    It was after this that he realized what a resource this state had and really all states and no one had considered including them in their main recovery plans. Thus the idea was formed for each county to list all Non Profits and phone numbers. In essence we have created a phone tree.

    I do think the people in our state will realize how badly we will need the infrastructure program Obama wants passed. On top of all of existing road and bridge repairs that are ongoing in our state we now have many more because of the levees that broke during this storm.

    We had 22 rivers that crested and broke levees or jumped banks this time. Records were set as to how high some of that water got. I-5 once again was closed not just in the affected area from last year but further north in an area that had never been affected before. The water has undermined those sections and many repairs will have to be made. I-5 is a direct route through this state for trucking and services. I-90 over the mountains also took a huge hit with the mud and snow slides. Parts of the road are broken up in chunks. My husband works for the DOT and informed me they lost a bridge in one area.

    That list does not even include the ongoing projects that polouriticians and voters keep arguing about. Our 520 floating bridge needs replaced NOW and the Alaskan Way Viaduct through Seattle has been a huge battle! It is so bad that the state checks it every few months to measure how much it has shifted. There are state engineers who will not even drive over it.

    The argument is of course, who will pay for and fund it?

    So our infrastructure list has just gotten longer as we include the new damage to roads, bridges and levees.

    Oy I just want to bang my head on the wall as I look at this post.

  360. oops should have read that post! LOL “Ongoing projects that our politicians and voters keep arguing about.” Is how that should have read.

  361. My 2009 resolution is not make any resolutions that I can not keep. So far so good.

  362. Proud said-
    “I do think the people in our state will realize how badly we will need the infrastructure program Obama wants passed. On top of all of existing road and bridge repairs that are ongoing in our state we now have many more because of the levees that broke during this storm.”

    I hope all of America sees the need for infrastructure repair and re-do.
    The blind adherence to “starve the beast” of the neo-cons combined with other factors like aging facilities, giving corporate America a cheap pass ( how many projects for large employers/companies get waivers or credits of some sort or other which release them from having to share the burden of roads etc which deliver their goods , in the name of the wealth they supposedly generate for communities?), and so on have contributed mightily to the disrepair all around this country.
    “Deferred Maintenance” on levees, bridges, public buildings, and roads has gone on far too long… Far too many parts of the whole are past maintaining now…
    I suppose it looks good on paper to line item something out for deferred maintenance but the reality of crumbling bridges, the horrors of failed levees in New Orleans and gross disrepair reported in some of the VA facilities- for medical care!?- look like demolition fare to me.

    What a simple elegant add to emergency preparedness- your phone tree!

    Here’s to fixing up the rest of our everyday and emergency necessities !

  363. “Bad guys” don’t just lie about war; they lie about the environment; they lie about free markets; in short, they lie. Sometimes they lie outright – as in
    “Iraq has WMD” or “Mission Accomplished”. Sometimes their lies are predicated on the need to divide and conquer “Palin’ around with terrorists”. But there are lies of omission- and it’s the silencing of truth that will kill you. During the campaign, I was discouraged by the chatter concerning “clean coal” – coal ain’t clean, never has been, never will be. mining coal is a dangerous, dirty, and unregulated business and is this country’s dirty little secret. As we jaw on and on about green technologies, we conveniently ignore the mountaintop removal in West Virginia; as we turn on our green lightbulbs, we forget that power comes from coal – and that coal comes mostly from some of the poorest areas in this country – Appalachia. During the campaign, Appalachia was disparaged – so easy to do, because Appalachia is not on anyone’s radar. But Appalachia powers this country. Coal from its mines are trained and trucked throughout this country. And the coal ash lehar that devastated TN (and now AL) barely got a notice on the evening news. Folks in Appalachia are living with contaminated water, contaminated air, contaminated land – and their children die from cancer and other “mysterious” ailments not typically found among most populations of the young. And no one notices. No one pays attention. Instead they tout Clean Coal as their mantra – but it’s not clean, it’s dirty, and it’s the dirty little secret of the EPA and this country.

  364. Greytdog-

    All that you say is true. But I think it is more than just the lies…
    The “Clean Coal” thingy works partly because of the hiding of truths and/or lying but it works on some other level to do with our valuation system. I can’t quite get hold of language to describe what I mean…
    If we denigrate and ignore those who live in resource extraction areas- like First Americans in the Southwest re:uranium and “hill folk” in Appalachia- as poor and whiny and however else we choose to set ourselves up in the grand old paternalistic voice- we’re-doing-this-for-your-own-good-see-the-jobs-you-get , we can get away with soothing any concerns about collateral damage our collective conscience whispers at us…
    I gotta go think about this some more…

  365. West Virginia has long been coal mine country. Here’s the irony: folks can buy a home and land in West Virginia – but they don’t buy the mineral rights. That belongs to the coal companies. So the companies can come in, strip your mountain top, leave you with sludge, contaminated ground water, heavy metals in the soil. . . and you can’t do anything about it. BUT if environmentalists who don’t understand the fine print come in and raise holy hell, the “land owners” are the first ones cited for polluting – and given the lion’s share of the clean-up costs. The coal companies on the other hand have lobbyists and PR folks who own a lot of politicians and air time and can go around spouting about how the industry advocates “clean coal”. The legal costs alone – not to mention the medical costs – of fighting the coal industry can wear a soul down – and that’s just the way the industry wants it.

  366. Helen, do NOT follow any of your resolutions except the one to stay involved and speak up. We have to GET the Bad Guys and Get Them Gone.

    And, you make me feel better about giving my mother a red sweater that she likes a lot. She’s 83 and she looks good in red, so I thought it was better than candles or flowers and now I know it was.

    For eight years, as an opinion columnist for my local paper, I ranted about the Shrub (boy, do I miss Molly Ivins) and his cronies. You’re so right that it isn’t all the president’s doing – not even Bush could cause this much damage in such a short time all by himself. Now, with fingers crossed, I’m hoping Obama shows true leadership and can get Congress to go in the right direction.

    My resolutions are to spend more time with my grandaughter, who is four – I want to make memories with her – and visit my mom more, even though she’s 220 miles away. And to pray for economic recovery, because it’s scary here in Michigan just now.

  367. What a great way to start 2009, reading your blogs. Just found it. Whether I am in agreement (90%) or not, whether I am laughing, or tearing up, I love you ladies, really looking forward to the posts you make. Carole Anne, Calgary Alberta

  368. Well I posted about our phone tree this morning and guess what? It is working!!! I received a call asking if our food bank could store 4 pallets of water for the flood victims in the next county and of course said yes! Called my phone tree people and we headed down to clear space to receive it!

    We are so excited that this is working!

    Greytdog so agree with you about clean coal! I am going to put a link ( which I never do ) to a website about Elaine Choa. Bush’s head of the Dept. of Labor. This woman is disgraceful! She has protected not just corporations but seems very chummy with the mining industry and keeping them safe from any lawsuits.

    Here are just a few of the things she has done while Bush has been in office.

    Hired a former colleague from the Heritage Foundation who actually wrote a report titled “How to close down the Department of Labor”

    Cut over 100 inspectors at MSHA and, as result, hundreds of mines weren’t inspected and tragedies such as Sago and Crandall Canyon might have been prevented.

    Failed to issue a rule requiring employers pay for their workers’ safety gear, contributing to 400,000 workers injured and 50 dead.

    Tried to outsource hundreds of jobs from within her own agency.

    Those are just a few and it only gets worse.

    Here is the watchdog groups website that has been watching her every move.

    http://www.ShameOnElaine.org

    Warning it will infuriate you! I can only go to it about once a month as I get so damn mad!

    Ok need to get some things done here at home.

  369. Honolulu Sally:

    Glad to hear my Fearless Flyers experience made you laugh …Was only trying to insert a little humor after hundreds of truly sad (and sometimes infuriating) comments.

    Δ

  370. Maven ∆,

    Isn’t this a great place to visit and chat and have various subjects and their tones going on, thanks to our two grand ladies Margaret and Helen?

    Thanks for the laugh. I may start to wear a rubber band around my wrist – I need to purge negative long standing resentments I can’t seem to shake from my conscience. I might get raw from the snapping though.

    As for Bush’s “No Child Left Behind” (or NCLB as our Hawaii State Department of Education likes to shorten all agencies, curriculums, programs to acronyms), it is actually “Every Child Left Behind”. Since Hawaii is so stuck on depending on federal funds, they jumped through Bush’s hoops and adopted his “brain”child. I guess the best that can come out of his NCLB program is that our kids will all have his IQ. Sarah Palin would have done well here. (snap! snap!)

    As it is, the budget for special needs kids has grown at the expense of the mainstream kids without needs. It really is the dumbing down of America – unless you can afford to send them to our private schools.

    Well, off to eat some spam sushi maki – little logs of spam rolled in sushi rice and wrapped with nori. Try it that way Jean. It is ono (delicious)!

  371. Honolulu Sally…I’m smiling at your “Sarah Palin would have done well here. (snap! snap!)”

    Did you catch the story a while back about the Kansas City, MO, church that has a ministry for helping more people live a “complaint-free” life? They use purple rubber wrist bands to remind them not to complain. Their web site is http://www.acomplaintfreeworld.org/

    http://www.acomplaintfreeworld.org/faqs.html

    HOW DID THIS WHOLE THING GET STARTED?
    “Rev. Will Bowen of Christ Church Unity in Kansas City, MO was teaching a series on Prosperity. Part of this series was helping the congregation to form a habit of gratitude by going 21-days without complaining. Studies show it takes 21 days for people to form a new habit. In an effort to make the lesson practical, the church purchased purple bracelets and gave them away encouraging them to move the bracelet to the other arm if they caught themselves complaining.”

    For awhile, I thought I could talk my husband and some friends into this, but we never ordered the rubber bands. I still think I should try it, but the website FAQs say that it takes about 4-10 months to go 21 consecutive days without complaining. Sheesh. All you’d ever hear around here would be snap, snap, snap, all the time.

    Damn, was THAT a complaint? (….Snap!)

    See, I rest my case.

  372. I think I’d end up using the rubber band to fashion a sling shot and just twang people in the head who annoyed me instead of complaining about their actions. . . .

  373. One of my new year’s resolutions is to celebrate everything I can think of.
    January 23 is National PIE DAY!!!!!!!
    Seems fitting there should be a celebration here on the porch, or in the parlor if we clean up after ourselves. Any suggestions on how to honor Margaret and Helen on this day?

  374. Greydog! you’ll shoot their eye out!

  375. Ha Ha
    Good one greytdog

    I think I’d end up using the rubber band to fashion a sling shot and just twang people in the head who annoyed me instead of complaining about their actions. . . .

  376. Snap Snap! Great idea Raji!

    Kill the wabbit!

  377. Quoting avotresante at 4:10 PM

    “One of my new year’s resolutions is to celebrate everything I can think of.
    January 23 is National PIE DAY!!!!!!!
    Seems fitting there should be a celebration here on the porch, or in the parlor if we clean up after ourselves. Any suggestions on how to honor Margaret and Helen on this day?”

    It’s official: American Pie Council

    PIE for PEACE ~ Δ Δ Δ Δ Δ

  378. January 23 – Have Peace with Pie. . .
    Have Pie in Peace

    I think Margaret & Helen should be invited to the Great American Pie Bake Off as Honorary Guests and Judges!!!

    How about a Pie Buffet? First, have a big family/neighborhood get-together potluck. (In the milder climes, this means BBQ – oh yeah!) And everyone should bring PIE to share. . . I’m already thinking of Blackberry Pie, Grasshopper Pie (with chocolate and creme de menthe), and a glazed tropical fruit tart. . . okay, I’m getting hungry. . .

  379. Speaking of bad guys Helen; how about that loud mouth nutcase Ann Coulter? How scary is she? Aren’t there were state hospitals for people like her.

  380. Whoops. Maybe there are hospitals for me. I meant to ask if there are hospitals for the criminally insane not just those that can’t type.

  381. Christine – s’right. Just typing Ann Coulter’s name will make ya crazy…mad…
    Now some people refer to AC as a bitch. But I kind of find that insulting to all the nice female canines out there. AC in and of herself is not scary – just another sad, embittered, shriveled soul. But the fact that she has a public platform and people actually BELIEVE the slime she spews – that’s scary! But I have to keep reminding myself that these are usually the same people who think SP was highly qualified to be VPOTUS – and was anointed by God himself. So maybe, to circle back around, we should consider SP/AC (twins separated at birth?) as the rubber bands of life – they keep twanging to remind us to be ON GUARD against false prophets and fascism.

  382. Hi everybody in general and Sally in Honolulu in particular,

    Thank you for the Spam musubis tip and recipe. I think I’ll try 7/11 first and then maybe homemade. We might have a whole new menu item! Also thank you for enlightening me on ‘opihi’. I had a hunch it was a setup. Now I am glad I did spit it out! I have always passed on French snails, although we have friends who relish them. ‘Opihi’, limpets, snails. Same family.

    The next time we have a get together and that teenager is there, I will serve him some sauerkraut and tell him it is my celebrated cole slaw. He loves my famous cheesecake and likes to pretend to bar the front door and not let me in until I assure him I brought it.

    I think it is interesting how different foods can evoke such strong feelings and often have lifelong consequences. I remember one holiday dinner when my husband was starting to carve the turkey. One of our three-year old sons burst into tears and cried, “DON’T DO THAT!!!! THAT HURTS HIM!!!!!” To settle the little fella down, we had to take the turkey back into the kitchen to carve it.

    That kid grew up to ultimately become a vegetarian. He has no particular moral, religious or political agenda. He just says he doesn’t care much for meat. He is not hard-core and does fall off the ‘no meat’ wagon occasionally in polite company.

    Everyone has his/her own preferences to which each of us is entitled.

    Aloha!

    Jean

  383. Apparently Ann is quite a fan of Sarah Palin. I suppose birds of a feather…yada yada yada They are both cringe-worthy. But Greytdog, at the risk of being catty, Ann Coulter isssss actually scary. Yes yes 99% of it is due to her psychotic rants but have you seen those bug eyes? Come on. If that isn’t a frightening sight, I don’t know what is. She resembles a preying mantis…………..in more ways than one I suppose.

  384. Hmmmm….bug eyes? Nope, haven’t looked at her much. It’s sort of like dealing with the shadow of evil – you never look it face on because it sucks your soul out. . . .so I usually just read about Coulter. . . but when she’s on the tube I leave the room or change the channel.

  385. Dear Helen and Margaret,

    We need you back here. We are starting to bounce around all over the place and off the walls. We need to focus!

    Here is another topic. I have a very dear friend who is a born-and-raised ex-pat from Zimbabwe. She and her husband have been here seven or eight years. They have one daughter in Botswana and another in Italy. (I thought our family was spread out!)

    My friend plays the flute beautifully. She is quite accomplished. For a number of years we have gotten together once a week in the afternoon and ‘jam’; Mozart, Poulenc and such. I accompany her on the piano. Afterwards we sit out on the Dinky Deck, drink tea and giggle.

    She was a nurse in Zim and cared for countless AIDS patients. We both keep up with what’s going on in Zim, mostly through the BBC. She is quite a bit younger than I am.

    Zim was once known as the ‘Jewel of Africa’ and the ‘Bread Basket’ of Africa. Now it is just a basket case. Robert Mugabe is the dictator. The old fart is a tyrant of the first magnitude. (Oops! Language, Jean, language. Snap, snap!)

    Not long ago, the people had to show their political party affiliation card in order to buy food, IF they had any money to buy it. Inflation is off the charts. Last we heard, 300,000%!!!!!!! Not a typo. That’s three-hundred thousand percent!!!!!!! So the people just starve – literally. Or die of AIDS. It’s another kind of genocide.

    The rest of the world sits on its hands and does nothing. After all, there is no oil there. Just people.

    Aloha!

    Jean

  386. Proud—what do you mean –quit drining? you mean he quit?
    Did you see his eyes when he was being interviewed by Charlie Gibson. Nough said.

    BTW have you ever seen Gratitude Beads?

    I made a bunch of them before the stroke. and started making them again –exercise for the hand. But I ran out of beads and haven’t found a new source for the ones I like. Not being able to get aaout and shop is rough.

  387. Jean, there’s a very logical progression to this discussion…lemme see if I can figure it out:
    Getting the Bad Guys >> Resolutions to not be quiet when bad guys try to do bad things to our good country >> speaking out instead of snarking or being silent >> TROLL ALERT (Capel) >> other trolls like NCLB, decaying infrastructure, coal industry >> community working together w/ Proud leading the way through her food bank & phone tree >> Rubber band snapping as a way to cleanse our fear >> rubber bands as weapons >> SP/AC (bad guys) compared to Rubber Bands >> lots of SPAM which is another way to remind us about the need to regulate and clean up the food industry. . . It’s still about getting the bad guys…especially if you use Spam as a metaphor…:) (Personally, I used to think it the height of culinary excellence when we had scrambled eggs mixed with spam…but then I was 5)

  388. Grandma Katie, try going to one of my favorite bead sites: FireMountainGems.com to see if they have the beads you want. The more items you order, the less expensive. This is a legit website, no spam, no viagra, no Bush, no Palin.

    Actually, it’s Dick Cheney and Ann Coulter that really scare me. Cheney is so confident and arrogant that he can’t be touched, and Coulter is just enjoying being mean. I really don’t like mean people, really, really, really! snap! snap! snap!

    My kids gave me Michael Moore’s 2003, “Dude, Where’s my Country?” and it is the dead opposite of Ann Coulter’s garbage. The only similarity they have is that they are both into entertainment and they both send shivers down me spine. Except Coulter scares me because of the meanness and evil she generates, Moore scares me because of the evil he exposes. The repubs can’t stand Moore as much as we can’t stand Coulter.

    Yuck. Just thinking about her makes me feel like a rash is coming on. Time for a snack instead. Spam mixed with scrambled eggs sounds good, with tabasco and ketchup and a side order of rice. We do love our rice over here, don’t we Jean?

  389. Honolulu Sally – one of the things I miss the most from my childhood was heading up into the Bontoc region of the Philippines with my mom – to buy rice. The markets had the white rice, the brown rice, etc but we were in search of the mountain red rice – rich nutty flavor, hearty texture (similar but not really to kashi), and even the cooking of it was fragrant. Yum. We eat rice in my house at least 6 times a week and then I like to take the leftover rice and make rice pudding for breakfast. Hmmm…..speaking of which. . . .

  390. Greydog:

    We too eat rice many times a week. My mother would cook wild rice (we have it growing all over here), and we would eat it for breakfast with cream and sugar. We used to go to a farm near by and buy our milk. The cream would rise to the top over night and we would put that on our steaming wild rice.
    I am hungry.